adamah...You did make some snide remarks abou biology being completely different than mechanical engineeringing.
A zen view would be that everything is perfect in its imperfection.
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Not all believers in a creator are dumb, may be deaf, so accomplished atheist explain this:--
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Not all believers in a creator are dumb, may be deaf, so accomplished atheist explain this:--
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Folks...read the thread about coffee with mouthy...and you will see love and grace in action.
Read the thread about no one telling a women that her sister died...and you will see evil in action.
You can debate the existence of God all day long, but in those two threads, you see the Gospel in action. Does that prove the existence of God? No, but it works.
Speaking as an engineer, a great deal of expensive high tech equipment was designed with empirical models only loosely based on physics, but they worked.
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Not all believers in a creator are dumb, may be deaf, so accomplished atheist explain this:--
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adamah...Are you saying that the first and second laws of thermo dynamics don't apply to biochemistry?
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A View From Outside
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw, and in many ways my interest was academic.
i have known, and know, some jws and ex-iws and know something of (but not personally) the effects that wtbts has on people.
the effects, imho, are not positive.
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Why do I view atheism as a religion?
(1) We are debating the existence of something that is beyond our ability to perceive, or if you believe the mystics, at least on the very edge of our ability to perceive. Consequently, any statement about its existence or not is speculation, and any belief in that existence or not is a matter of faith.
(2) In my experience, most secular dogma is based on as many unchallenged tenents as any religion which professes belief in the supernatural.
(3) In modern Western society, atheist are more evangelical about their belief system than any Baptist or JW.
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A View From Outside
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw, and in many ways my interest was academic.
i have known, and know, some jws and ex-iws and know something of (but not personally) the effects that wtbts has on people.
the effects, imho, are not positive.
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Respectfully Joe, you are clueless.
(1) The JW are not a religion. They are a cult. Big difference.
(2) If you decide to pick a fight over covering their head, you do not get the point. Emotional blackmail. Family shunning. Those are the things that cause real damage.
(3) I tend to cut the atheist on this board a great deal of slack, because they have been through alot of pain with the JW. I cannot say that I blame them for being angry and bitter. The JW did a great deal of bad things to them in God's name. My wife held that against God for a long time. They need to vent. I hope and yes pray that they find peace.
(4) However when a non-JW who does not have to deal with JW in a meaningful personal fashion begins bashing all religions as equally whacky, I will take issue. Atheism is as much as religion as anything else. Secular liberalism has a great many tenents that are accepted blindly on unquestioning faith by its followers.
(5) In my experience, most atheist are pretty arrogant, when in fact they are simply too intellectually lazy to comtemplate their finiteness in an infinite universe. Likewise, they lack any sense of continuity of generations and the importance of tradition.
Yes, the astute observer may note my distinct Wesleyian perspective.
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A View From Outside
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw, and in many ways my interest was academic.
i have known, and know, some jws and ex-iws and know something of (but not personally) the effects that wtbts has on people.
the effects, imho, are not positive.
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How long since you have prayed?
by LostGeneration inits been probably five years for me.
i don't miss it a bit.
i was a slacker when it came to prayer.
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In all seriousness, I do not think that the point of praying is just about getting what we want.
Remember "Thine will be done. On earth as it is in heaven."
I have always believed that the point of prayer is our spiritual and mental health. Prayer is about reconnecting ourselves to God and each other in the process.
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How long since you have prayed?
by LostGeneration inits been probably five years for me.
i don't miss it a bit.
i was a slacker when it came to prayer.
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@ Giordano, Last Saturday at bed time prayers, my daughter prayed that the Florida Gators would win their next game. My Yankee wife proceded to give me an earful about misplaced values. I told her that there was nothing wrong about praying for someone in need.
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Quick Poll - How many are...
by mrhhome inhow many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.
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Non-JW who married an ex-JW who had DA when she was 18. I had actually given her my blessings to return if she so desired.
Then after 12 years of showing her JW family respect, I watched them throw her under the bus at a funeral. It was then that I realized that this a dangerous cult.
I have often compared JW to a grade B horror flick. Great wonderful people one moment. Flesh eating zombies the next.
After reading the stories here, I concluded that I will oppose the JW organization every chance I get. You cannot let a organization that systemmatically terrorizes people go unopposed. You cannot let such a corrupt organization chase people away from God.
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Quick Poll - How many are...
by mrhhome inhow many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.
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If you stay in, what are your reasons?