It appears that I have irritated some folks. Good. I stand by my position.
Forget my wife. How many people are being hurt while you are unwilling to confront the organization?
Just for the record. I am past being mad. I am resolute.
i am going to throw down the gaunlet.
those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.
while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.
It appears that I have irritated some folks. Good. I stand by my position.
Forget my wife. How many people are being hurt while you are unwilling to confront the organization?
Just for the record. I am past being mad. I am resolute.
i am going to throw down the gaunlet.
those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.
while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.
As I stated in the beginning, I am completely sympathetic to the dilemma many of you face.
At the same time, I find myself wondering. How many people knew my wife's story, thought that the whole situation was BS, and was never willing to take a stand for her? How many people in the organization think my situation is BS but leave me to fight this battle alone? How many more people are going to experience this BS given that the elders know that they will go unchallenged?
My objective is to prevent this nonsense in the future, and if that means putting pressure on those who know TATT but are still in the organization, so be it.
ok. now i find myself in an odd situation.
my wife's family, who has let the witnesses walk all over her for 30 years, is trying to play nice.
(mother-in-law is a witness.
I have decided that I will respond to the situation as it develops.
If they play nice, I will play nice. If they don't, I will punch them in the nose. If I see BS, I will call it as such.
I have also decided that I am not keeping my wife's and mother's secrets from her Dad anymore.
you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!
i like the cut of his jib"?.
well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.
When I was in college, I seemed to have several lesbians in my life. I kept telling them that I was a lesbian on the inside.
What does that make me?
i had been thinking about religion and religious services in general and perhaps i am just noticing it more because of my personal involvement but it seems that the jehovahs witness religion tends to have more incidents of mixed marriages where one partner is considered the unbelieving spouse than other religions or churches.
of course, i have not been to church is a while and even when i did go to church i found that there werent as many instances of a spouse going it alone in the church without their partner.
i guess that is partly why i got discouraged in going to church as i felt like i could only bring half my family to it.. the main thing i would like to discuss, though, is why does there seem to be a higher number of mixed marriages within this religion as opposed to other religions.
I agree with LostGeneration. Mix marriages are very common in most churches. They just generate more strain when one party is a JW, because the JW are so obnoxious.
This is one reason that JW make no sense to most Protestants. We deal with these sort of issues all the time without many problems. We learn how to manage differences of opinions. It is only when you throw a JW into the mix that you encounter real division and strife.
i am going to throw down the gaunlet.
those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.
while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.
You married her. You get to handle her baggage.
Never was there a more true statement. I knew the whole story within the first week of meeting her. Never would I have imagined exactly what it all meant. She is worth it, but oh Gosh, dealing with JW is painful.
So..........it's like WE should complicate OUR life to make YOUR life easier.
It cuts both ways. Why is my life more complicated because you are unwilling to deal with your baggage? You deal with yours first. That is where this problem started.
ok. now i find myself in an odd situation.
my wife's family, who has let the witnesses walk all over her for 30 years, is trying to play nice.
(mother-in-law is a witness.
OK. Now I find myself in an odd situation. My wife's family, who has let the Witnesses walk all over her for 30 years, is trying to play nice. (Mother-in-law is a Witness. Father in-law is not.) They are actually going to visit.
My issue is this. I appreciate that they are trying to play nice, but when you press my mother in-law, she still has a cult mindset. She genuinely loves her daughter but will fold when the Witnesses put pressure on her. If you start pressing, you find all the cult ellusiveness and denial.
What the heck am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to accept them with open arms and blindly hope that we do not encounter issues again in the future? Do I swing to the other extremely and prohibit my family from having any interactions with any Witnesses?
Really, what the heck am I supposed to do? My choice is between (a) letting my family play with a rabid dog or (b) implementing the very shunning that I have fought against.
i am going to throw down the gaunlet.
those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.
while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.
I am going to throw down the gaunlet. Those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the Jehovah Witness organization. While I am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the JW enables the organization.
Some of you may remember my story. Married a DA'ed JW. Dealing with JW mother and brother in-law. Father in-law is not a JW but gives them free reign. Wife was publically shunned by brother at uncle's funeral.
One of my many issues with the situation is that I shouldn't have to be dealing with this. Someone else dragged me into it, and now, I have to figure out how to deal with it. Another issue is that the battle lines have essentially gotten drawn around my wife which creates friction in my household. She has a classic survior mindset. Why isn't the fight taken to the households of those who created this mess?
If someone had stood up to these Witnesses 30 years ago, I would not have to deal with this now.
i know that this is a statement of the obvious, but i am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law witnesses.. it is absolutely amazing.
they are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people.
however if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it.
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i know that this is a statement of the obvious, but i am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law witnesses.. it is absolutely amazing.
they are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people.
however if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it.
Here we go again. I know that this is a statement of the obvious, but I am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law Witnesses.
It is absolutely amazing. They are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people. However if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the Witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it. When they cannot do so anymore, they will just shut down.
I am beginning to question whether it is even a conscious process or if it has become subconscious.
Sad. Really, really sad. Why would anyone subject themselves to an organization that screws with their mind so badly? How can anyone suspend their natural sense of morality at the demand of an organization?