Did I read this right? Sorry, my eyes glazed over. So is the Watchtower claiming that the 144,000 is both the Bride of Christ and Jehovah's Wife?
Thanks Randy for posting this!
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jehovah's wife and her kids.
this was a response that my friend cynthia sent back to this person in response to her questions.
mr. watters:.
Did I read this right? Sorry, my eyes glazed over. So is the Watchtower claiming that the 144,000 is both the Bride of Christ and Jehovah's Wife?
Thanks Randy for posting this!
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on another thread, elsewhere said that he didn?t like going door to door, especially since he didn?t believe in what he preached.
i was a little surprised by his statement because i, on the other hand, did believe in what i preached.
i don?t think i would have been able to preach something i didn?t believe in.
I believed it all. When I found out it was a lie I stopped going out in service cold turkey. Didn't want to be responsible for someone inadvertently coming into this cult.
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the person in question is my husband's mother who is a jw.
she is in her late 40s... has been a devout dub for 20 years or so, and has never to my knowledge had any spiritual "problems".
she exhibits every characteristic that the typical rank-and-file should have.
I think that Lady Lee hit the nail on the head
"I know in my case the psychosomatic illness that got worse on meetings days or before service had nothing to do with doubts about the org and everything to do with my belief that I hated my life and thought that I was not good enough."
I too suffered from real illnesses when I was a JW. I would have lower back pain that was so bad that I couldn't walk or sit. The only comfortable position was lying down. Sitting in the chairs at the Kingdom Hall would send my back into spasms so bad it would bring me to tears. I had (still do to degree) bowel problems. Headaches. I was constantly sick with colds or flu. It seemed I always had something wrong with me.
I too believed it was the truth, but I hated my life, I thought that I was never good enough and I believed that I would die at Armageddon. The mind is very powerful, all these negative feelings have to come out some way.
Since I stopped going to the Kingdom Hall two years ago I have pretty much been a picture of health. I haven't felt this good for years.
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this is a quote from kingdom ministry, 6/89.
wholesome association.
5 one cannot walk with god while running in association with those of the wicked and sick society that approves of everything that god abhors.
When my daughter graduated from high school, in our congregation there were 6 kids graduating at the same time. We all thought wouldn't it be great if we all pooled our money together and had a really nice graduation party for the kids. Sounded great to me. Until "Sister Spiritual" decided, and got the others to agree that no wordly people are to be invited. Keep in mind most of the family members of the other kids were in the "truth". So the other kids would get to have their Grandma's and Grandpa's in attendance and other loved ones.
Since my daughter's Grandma, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins are wordly that would mean that she couldn't have her closest family members, that she loves dearly, attend her graduation party. Needless to say, since we were paying some of the costs and couldn't invite any of our family we backed out, we had our own party. It wasn't as spectacular, but my daughter could include her family.
The Witness apply the scripture at Proverbs 18:1 to the weak ones, or to us ones that want to fade away and leave this religion...... "One isolating himself will seek his own selfish longing; against all practical wisdom he will break forth." But I think this scripture really applies to the JW's, they are the ones that are isolating themselves from the rest of the world. They are so frightened of having their own spiritually being tarnished by so called "wordly" people or by "undesirables", that they just can't behave in a normal civilized way. All they care about is saving their own skin.
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don't mean to toot my own horn but this year i will be 44 and i feel great!!!
two of my daughters tried baking my cake today and burned both of them....soooo funny!!
i also like things that have to do with double numbers etc...my husband says i am strange.
Happy Birthday!!! Enjoy your day.
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subject: new series.
the next survivor series.
six married men will be dropped on an island with 1 car and 4 kids each,.
Funny!!! That's one survivor I would love to see. And they must hold down a full time job :-)
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one of the biggest regrets a person might have is that they let their children become involved in the whole jw "thing".
you know---everything from the elders always cornering them to "investigate" something or even having the parents "turn in" their own kids......is there anything that you especially regret?
Raising my daughter in this religion.
I wasted 26 years of my young adult life in this cult.
I gave up college (I was in my first year of college when I joined)
Can never wish my Dad happy birthday, give him a Father's day card, or celebrate the holidays with him ( he died 13 years ago)
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hello everyone!.
i just found this website today and hope i am in the right place.
Hello Meg and welcome! Yes, you are at the right place. I read your bio, it broke my heart. You have been through so much at such a young age.
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what a great thing to do.
this is my first one and i have to admit it was a lot of work getting it ready, but thanks to unseasonably freezing temps in southern ontario, the ice is great.
the kids are just loving it.
What memories. I was born in Canada and lived in Toronto when I was a young child. My dad would build us backyard ice rinks in the winter. I was a little tike then, but I still have a vivid memory of those rinks. So much fun!!
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Welcome pc! So sorry about what happened to your mom, so sad.
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