Posts by kelsey007

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What to say to the elders

by freedom96 in

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so the elders come a knockin.

they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.

what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.

Big Tex I have to humbly disagree with you about the caller ID bit and avoidance. Believe me that is not a pleasant life to live- don't hide from any issue you face in life- bad idea. Be an adult and face the issues straight on. Take your stand as you see fit and be honest with yourself, your children and all others-

Two wrongs do not make a right- time goes by and one day, sooner than you think, your child will be grown and you do not want to have to explain why you ran and hid from a issue- bad example for your child...

Sorry Big Tex- my children are grown and it seems only yesterday that they were babies. I am glad for the sacrifices I took years ago- I reap the blessings today- likewise I regret not taking stronger stands and sacrifices on other things and I also live with the results of those bad desicions today. I do not have to see my children every day or every week or every month to love them- I just have to always be there for them, be honest with myself and them and set an example of honesty and intergrety for them and they do recognize this as they mature.

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What to say to the elders

by freedom96 in

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friends

so the elders come a knockin.

they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.

what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.

kelsey007

freedom I have learned in life that doing things the right way may be the hardest and slowest way- and a bit more painful- but the outcome in the long run seems so much better.......

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What to say to the elders

by freedom96 in

jw
friends

so the elders come a knockin.

they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.

what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.

kelsey007

With my children- their mom is a jw- my ex- she played the b.s. My kids saw my stand. Neither of them as adults are jw's.

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What to say to the elders

by freedom96 in

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friends

so the elders come a knockin.

they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.

what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.

kelsey007

Then if I were you I would attend the meetings as a spiritually weak person. How is this little child going to feel about you when he/she learns that you did not take an honest stand for what you believe in? It's ok to lie to be with someone you love?

Not for me. I say take your stand- speak your heart. Let all know that you stand for honesty and if they choose to shun you for honesty- the child will know you did the proper thing and learn from your life. The child will also have a better perspective about jw's from an honest view.

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Can we really fade away for good

by JH in

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i was wondering how long an inactive witness can stop going to meetings before the elders can disfellowship the person?

some are saying that the elders will visit inactive ones in jan,feb,march.

is there a strategy up their sleeve?

kelsey007

After so many years of being away- inactive- and you are coming to ex-jw sites? Naw you havent faded away by along shot. It still plagues you. You cant get jw's out of your mind. It has nothing to do with the elders at all. It is all about what is in you.

As I wrote elsewhere I am thankful that I woke up one day and decided that quitting the meetings was getting away from lies- but hiding from a possible man- made label was yet another lie. And living the 2nd lie was just about as bad as living with the first. So I came clean and spoke out- left no room for doubt in the elders minds and let the chips fall where they will.

Life is so much better now. Elders never, never visit my house!

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Two Elders Came to Visit this Afternoon

by Scully in

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..... and i missed it!!!

arggggggggggghhhhh.

anyway, hubby was out front fixing the christmas lights when two jws approached him in the driveway.

kelsey007

Lets examine this one- Inactive for over five years- National flag in front yard and x-mas lights going up...

These elders were just going through a formality. Husbands response about pediphiles put the last nail in the coffin.

I remember years ago when I was going through my limbo status and avoiding elders- one day I woke up. I thought why am I hiding from this thing? For the most part so-called JW friends had already distanced themselves from me just due to my inactive status. My actions certainly made a bold statement as to where I stood with the organization. All this just to avoid a df or da label? I decided that regardless of family or friends I had to be honest first with myself and let the chips fall where they may. Fortunately my family- mom, dad sister- ignored JW protacol and stood by me.

To hell if I would live a lie for anyone. When the lights go out at night it is I that I must live with.. As much as I love my family and friends- and would never do anything to hurt them- they likewise must make the choice of how they will deal with me and my choices. Either way I will always respect their choices and deal with the outcome as an adult.

One truth that the WT taught was that god knows all- if you believe in god. So when I look in the mirror I must be happy with me. And if, when I die, I find that there is a god that must be dealt with- it is I that must stand alone before that god. It is I that must answer for my stand and my actions alone. And it is weight on the hearts of family and friends that choose to shun.

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A quote about peace....

by kelsey007 in

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"peacekeeping is not only a central characteristic of the gospel.

peacemaking is the greatest need of the world today.

we are the daughters and sons of god, and that means we are called to be peacemakers, whether we like it or not.

kelsey007

"Peacekeeping is not only a central characteristic of the gospel. Peacemaking is the greatest need of the world today. We are the daughters and sons of God, and that means we are called to be peacemakers, whether we like it or not. It's a responsibility of all of us to pursue peace for its own sake, for the sake of the future for our children."

Quoted by actor Martin Sheen in regards to the Bush administrations war talk on Iraq...

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How would you answer?

by sunshineToo in

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i hate hearing, "you left jehovah?

" as if i abandoned god.

i get angry.

kelsey007

Nelly you mean the NWT did not insert "You must love the organization with your whole...." to get life? NWT revised circa 2003.

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How would you answer?

by sunshineToo in

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i hate hearing, "you left jehovah?

" as if i abandoned god.

i get angry.

kelsey007

I always wondered about all those poor true believers that died over two hundred years ago and did not have the WT or the GB to guide them and tell them how to find and define truth..... Were they apostates?

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Is it me ???

by somebody in

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o hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come.psalm 65:2.. jehovah god is the king of eternity.

who can pray and be heard?

approaching the king eternal.

kelsey007

Prayer-

One needs a mediator, Jesus, to reach god through prayer. And god hears such prayers. Only after one is baptized-(here is the subtle message IMO) can one pray with holy spirit.

Are they then saying that only baptized JW's can pray effectively? With holy spirit? Therefore you must be part of the organization to have a relationship with god and have his holy spirit otherwise do not waste your time praying- you will be speaking into the wind....

At least that is what I got from the article.