it seems like every service meeting they are suggesting we give toward one thing or another.
even printed in several of the watchtowers or awakes that it would be ok to leave all our belongings to the society in our will.
we can't give blood, but they sure are asking for it.
Never. I never believed in it. They never, EVER pressured us when I was in - but lots did.
To answer your question, once your dead, your debt is wiped out. Even if you are in the hole like $200,000.00, nobody gets debt passed on to them. The debtors are s.o.l.
elder d came to our house with a publisher who's 80 years old.
my dad was talking to them in the livivng room as i came down for my lunch.
i sat down at the table and the elder d said "hi ya, all right?
Heh.
When they start asking me questions - well, you questions (duh), I suggest giving the kind of answers that make them have more questions. It totally freaks them out.
"Why haven't you been to meetings?"
"Well, its been tough, with all thats going on - ya know."
"yeah, like what?"
"Well, you know, the money situation, the family problems, you know"
"What family problems?"
"Ah - just like all families, I guess."
"Like What?"
"You know - personal things"
"You can tell me anything, you know"
" I know."
.................................
"So, what has been really keeping you from meetings?"
"I just told you......"
Don't give them one concrete thing. They are free to say whatever lies they want from then on out! It works like a charm.
elder #1 - former father in law of our daughter in law's sister, and 75 years old.
elder #2: wt conductor at our former congregation.
blah blah blah .
Why don't you tell them to get lost and don't come back. They suck.
What? From what I get from your post is the WTS is the truth? I'm there, dude!
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i was gone all day today, and when i returned dave told me an elder and his wife had called on mom today, and when he left, he approached dave in the yard, and arranged to come here tomorrow after their meeting, with another elder to talk to the two of us.. the noose is tightening.
we are babysitting the grandkids, so haven't been able to talk about strategy.. stay tuned..............i'll update you tomorrow afternoon.
EEEEK!
Be careful - if your kids are in the religion, you will have problems seeing them. If not, have fun with them. Good luck! Looking forward to your follow up!
Toooooo funny,.
this is a e-mail i got from a reader of my story on the freeminds.org site.
i read the story you typed about the woman with the small children at the jehovahs witness meeting, i don't mean to make you angry, but i don't believe that you were at a real jehovahs witness meeting ,because real jehovahs witnesses would never act that way that you described about the witnesses totaling ignoring that woman.
jehovahs witnesses do not ignore anyone.
Try emailing this person this -
JW's ignore anyone who is weak, period. It has nothing to do if your DF'd, or not. Even if your not, your bad assosiation if you have not made it to meetings, or out in field service at least 11 hours per month.
There are so many threads out there about the horrible psychological abuse that not only I, but MOST people here took from "brothers and sisters" in the hall. I overlooked it for years, YEARS, YEARS. Well, when people in all different types of congregations are exacly like scribes and pharisees, you can't ignore it. Maybe this person is in a good hall - good for them. Try going somewhere else, and seeing what its like. I have never seen so many unhappy backbiting people in my life. Jesus Christ would not tolerate it, and nor do I. He called them hypocrites.
LMAO!
Let's go vote - or can we? I don't know - let's just ask a local elder? Does he know?
The scum just gets muddier and mudder, not brighter and brighter!!!
this was in my e-mail this morning.
******the reason why you left the truth, the truth and not the "truth" like you people believe, is because you have no humility and no love.
when people like you commit something wrong and get disfellowship you can't say to yourself "i was wrong, i messed up, me and only me," you can't say that because is much easier to go around blaming others for your own mistakes.
It is a psychological truth that those persons who are very defensive are defensive for a reason - because they feel guilty. Any idiot parent knows this when they ask their kids what's wrong and they say rather obnoxiously "NOTHING!". I used to hang with people who would write crap out like that - not one of them is in the organization anymore. The thing to remember to all those angry people who criticize is to just tell them to let time tell - tell weather they can handle all the horrible sexual abuse that occured. They may have been told by the WTS that it is not true, but I can assure you that it is. Certainly, the Apostle Paul was right when he made those statements. Unfortunately, he was not talking of the scribes and pharisees. He was talking of a religion that had fruits for its works - the WT society has none.
Also - it seems obvious that that poster needs to work on the fruits of the spirit. He/she sure gets worked up about nothing.
"teens surrender in easter vandalism of 3 churches.
students allegedly photographed acts.".
in addition to the k.h., the catholic church and the mormon temple were also vandalized with satanic symbols and epithets.. http://www.signsonsandiego.com/news/metro/20030429-9999_1m29church.html
Too bad that they vandalized the other churches - mormon and catholic. JW's always want to feel "victimized" or "persecuted". They must be pissed!
Oh - by the way - spraying ketchup all over the place is actually horrible vandalism. It soaks through drywall, and permenantley stains walls / ceilings. I worked for a restoration company once.... I saw a persons home who had it covered in ketchup, and cost the insurance company thousands and thousands of dollars just for us to clean it, nevermind the painters that had to come in.
