I'm sorry, I should have said sister (ahmmm please correct me if I am wrong). Been reading your other posts. Your post saying that Jesus Christ is the promissed Holy Spirit (to that effect I hope) rings true but I must pray over it and wait for the answer. Pray for us that our ears will be open to the truth which is Jesus Christ by what ever name he chooses to reveil to us the Son of The Living God.
Posts by noko
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17Exposing WTBTS Lies and Errors - Part IV
by AGuest inexposing watchtower lies & errorspart iv christ speaks to the congregationsthe watchtower, may 15, 2003 .
paragraph 7:i hold this against you, said jesus, that you have left the love you had at first.
members of the congregation needed to rekindled their first love for jehovah.
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Exposing WTBTS Lies and Errors - Part IV
by AGuest inexposing watchtower lies & errorspart iv christ speaks to the congregationsthe watchtower, may 15, 2003 .
paragraph 7:i hold this against you, said jesus, that you have left the love you had at first.
members of the congregation needed to rekindled their first love for jehovah.
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noko
[quote] Again, why do you ask... and peace to you![/quote] Peace be with you too brother, reason being is the wise advice given by John in 1 John 4:1. Jesus was talking to his apostles and said this Mat 16:28 "Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom." What does that mean, who where the one's that saw his Kingdom coming before they tasted death?
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son of David?
by peacefulpete induring the first 2 centuries bc and first century ad numerous would be messiahs and jewish militant leaders made claims to being of the tribe of judah and sons of david.
how honest were they?
according to the jewish encyclopedia any tribal claims were meaningless.
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noko
Fair enough.
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Exposing WTBTS Lies and Errors - Part IV
by AGuest inexposing watchtower lies & errorspart iv christ speaks to the congregationsthe watchtower, may 15, 2003 .
paragraph 7:i hold this against you, said jesus, that you have left the love you had at first.
members of the congregation needed to rekindled their first love for jehovah.
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noko
Are not laws made for the lawless? Condeming Israel as a slave to the law? Did not Jesus Christ break the creed of laws for a new freedom where it will be written in the hearts of people to do what Jehovah wishes? Are we not surpose to walk in Jesus own footsteps and carry the cross? Nailing the creed of laws for the lawless to the grave wiping out sin once and forever?
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How can 144,000 be a literal number?
by Pleasuredome inhow does the wts explain that the sum total of symbolic numbers equals a literal number?
rev 7:4-8
logic says that if the sum parts are symbolic, then the total can only be symbolic.
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noko
Slave of Christ, how does your works show your faith? Why are you here?
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O.K., Who Is CONVINCED That They Have The REAL Truth?
by SpannerintheWorks inand if you do, it shouldn't be too difficult to convince us of that!
i mean, you accepted it as the truth, .
can you convince us that you do indeed have the "real" truth?
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son of David?
by peacefulpete induring the first 2 centuries bc and first century ad numerous would be messiahs and jewish militant leaders made claims to being of the tribe of judah and sons of david.
how honest were they?
according to the jewish encyclopedia any tribal claims were meaningless.
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noko
Mythological? So I take it you believe the Bible is a collection of well compiled myths then, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
I would argue differently that the Bible purpose was somewhat different, that the stories are well too organized and consistent to be part of fiction. There most be some reason why you are posting here as well. In any case, Jesus real farther on earth was David himself while his heavenly farther was Jehovah, just my belief in this matter.
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son of David?
by peacefulpete induring the first 2 centuries bc and first century ad numerous would be messiahs and jewish militant leaders made claims to being of the tribe of judah and sons of david.
how honest were they?
according to the jewish encyclopedia any tribal claims were meaningless.
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noko
Here is another rendering of same verse from New King James:
12 "When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom."
So who seed was it then that impregnated Mary? Mary had no relations with any man when she got pregnant with Jesus, do you believe that?
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son of David?
by peacefulpete induring the first 2 centuries bc and first century ad numerous would be messiahs and jewish militant leaders made claims to being of the tribe of judah and sons of david.
how honest were they?
according to the jewish encyclopedia any tribal claims were meaningless.
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noko
Why is there no edit here?
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son of David?
by peacefulpete induring the first 2 centuries bc and first century ad numerous would be messiahs and jewish militant leaders made claims to being of the tribe of judah and sons of david.
how honest were they?
according to the jewish encyclopedia any tribal claims were meaningless.
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noko
The two geneologies of Mathew and then Luke indicate's to me the confusion which resulted from the destruction of the record. Amazing, thousands of years of keeping accurate records destroyed right around when the Messiah Jesus Christ was to appear or was even walking the earth! One of the primary reasons for this record to confirm the Messiah besides the legal aspect of property and hereditary disposition. Mathew accord is taken from Joseph who was not the natural father of Jesus as indicated by the scriptures. Luke also indicates the geneology of Joseph but is different from Mathew's. The scriptures say's clearly that Jesus is the Son of David and Jesus posed an interesting question "How is it they say that the Christ is David's son?" Luke20:41. Then again Jesus goes on asks another question as well "David, therefore, calls him 'Lord'; so how is he his son?"
The answer I believe is right there in front of our eyes if we only search and ask for it and let the spirit direct us. In any case consider what the scriptures says when Jehovah told Nathan to tell David this:
"And Jehovah has told you that a house is what Jehovah will make for you. 12 When your days come to the full, and you must lie down with your forefathers, then I shall certainly raise up your seed after you, which will come out of your inward parts; and I shall indeed firmly establish his kingdom. . ." Parts of 2Sam 7:11-12.
2Sam 7:12-16 talks about the kingdom that will be firmly established, the house for Jehovah. Note it was to happen after David's death, Solomon was already king before David died. In addition this kingdom will last to time indefinite in which Solomon's did not. Now also look at this:
Jehovah now said to Solomon: "For the reason that this has taken place with you and you have not kept my covenant and my statutes that I laid in command upon you, I shall without fail rip the Kingdom away from off you, and I shall certainly give it to your servant. " 1 King 11:11
King Solomon broke the convenant with Jehovah with him, this you can read in 2 Chron 7:18-22, this is a different covenent then what David had with Jehovah. David's covenent was to come from his own inward parts, a king that will reign forever.
To me the scripture is clear, Jesus farther is King David himself, his seed came directly coming from David's inward parts, which Jehovah had planted into the servant girl Mary. If a woman now can give birth to a child from her dead husbands years after his death then to say that Jehovah couldn't do something similar would be ridiculous.