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    The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

    by AGuest in
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    may you all have peace.

    last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

    this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

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    noko
    Ac 5:29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men.
    Ac 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a tree.
    Ac 5:31 God exalted him with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, to give repentance to Israel, and remission of sins.
    Ac 5:32

    We are His witnesses of these things; and so also is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."

    Jesus was killed and died and was raised up by Jehovah (Jesus did not always exist), Jehovah exalted him to be a Prince and a Savior (If Jesus was the Almighty then there would be no need to be exalted but he had to be exalted by the Almighty to take this station). Jahovah chooses who he wants to represent him for our salvation. Jahovah has made many to be Saviors, in that they represented the true Savior Jahovah just as Jesus represents Jahovah his Father today. Today the Holy Spirit is what witnesses these things, it is the Holy Spirit that we must listen to if we want to know Jesus Christ and hear the truth.

  • AGuest
    128

    The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

    by AGuest in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    may you all have peace.

    last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

    this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

    1. DJ
    2. noko
    3. UnDisfellowshipped
  • noko
    noko

    Well of course I wasn't saying I was the master of the universe, it is to show that Alpha and Omega is a statement or condition not a name of an individual. There is one Alimighty UDF and in the Bible it is clearly identified with one God, Jehovah. Jesus Christ is his son UDF, a Mighty God. The Bible states there are many Gods UDF, from false to the Almighty.

    Now you say the Son has always existed??? Now what is the purpose of Jesus dying for our sins if he really never died? Jesus did in fact died UDF and so did not always exist. In addition Jesus was born UDF unless you truely disbelieve the Bible account. To say Jesus always existed is to take Jesus off the cross and to take away our salvation from redemption. Is that what you are saying?

    The trinity doctrine is a contradiction, a lie and is not truely reflected in the Bible. Jesus has a Father, the Father has a son, this is what the Bible says, not that the Father and Son form one God with the Holy Spirit, at best that is man's invention.

  • AGuest
    128

    The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

    by AGuest in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    may you all have peace.

    last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

    this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

    1. DJ
    2. noko
    3. UnDisfellowshipped
  • noko
    noko
    So, there is absolutely no way that you can prove that by Jesus being called "Mighty God" that He is NOT Almighty.

    Just by Jesus saying he has a Father proves it UDF. Do you understand the meaning of Father?

    UDF, show me a verse that says Jesus Christ is Almighty. The verses you posed does not, some is referring to Jehovah and others are not, you are seeing what you want to see UDF and not what is being said.

    Alpha and Omega also means ONLY, as in I am the only one in my household who was in the Navy ever. I am the ONLY one who has the name of David in my household. UDF give me a break about this blasphene junk you keep coming up with. Because I say I am the Alpha and Omega in my house or First and Last in my household who was in the Navy is actually kinda funny. Get some reality with your arguments. I have to go, ranned out of time, not all of your many questions will I answer, SORRY.

  • AGuest
    128

    The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

    by AGuest in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    may you all have peace.

    last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

    this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

    1. DJ
    2. noko
    3. UnDisfellowshipped
  • noko
    noko

    Hi UDF,

    and greetings.

    Firstborn

    Hebrew

    1. B@kowr (bek-ore'); Noun Masculine, Strong #: 1060
      firstborn, firstling
      of men and women
      of animals
      noun of relation (fig.)

    Greek

    1. Prototokos (pro-tot-ok'-os);
      Word Origin: Greek, Adjective, Strong #: 4416 the firstborn
      of man or beast
      of Christ, the first born of all creation

    In any case UDF, Christ was born, had a beginning but is eternal. Now Christ or should I say the firstborn and only begotten son of Jah was not eternal, in that he gave up his spirit life to become death for us in the flesh to pay back the debt of sin brought about by our orginal father Adam. He paid back what was taken away by Satan from Jehovah. It is when Jah resurrected our Saviour is when he became the Firstborn of the new creation and also the Firstborn from the dead who will not die. Our Saviour had three births, first as a spirit (Jah as Father in the womb of Heaven) in which he died to come to us in the flesh (King David seed as his father and Mary his mother), which was his second birth and finally when Jah resurrected him from the dead (Born again from Jah), firstborn of the new creation, his third birth. In any case you have to admit his birth in flesh and then his subsequent birth from the dead, both where beginnings UDF.

    Now getting back to the mighty almighty thingy. LOL .

    UDF, you did forget one where mighty God is mentioned in the KJV that is, other translations have it in less:

    1sa 4:8 Woe unto us! who shall deliver us out of the hand of these mighty Gods? these are the Gods that smote the Egyptians with all the plagues in the wilderness.

    Now UDF who are these mighty Gods??? Yes more then one God and mighty UDF. Are they also Jehovah or Jesus Christ?

    This takes us to Ps 50.1 There is alot of variation with the rendering of the first verse as you can see and read here:

    The God of gods, even the Lord, has sent out his voice, and the earth is full of fear; from the coming up of the sun to its going down.

    In any case the word rendered mighty for KJV in Hebrew is different in Isa 9:6 and Ps 50.1. Now Ps 50:1 uses the word 'el (ale), while ISA 9:6 uses Gibbowr (ghib-bore'); These two words do mean different things and the rendering above of Ps 50:1 seems to be correct while the other Bibles render it incorrectly or at least differently.

    Now only Jehovah is ever rendered Almighty while there are cases where he is given the Mighty God title in the Bible. Now you say:

    Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is not God Almighty.

    You could also rephrase that to read:

    Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is God Almighty. If so UDF, show us. The highest that Jesus Christ is rendered in the Bible is a Mighty God while Jehovah is referred to being Almighty numerous times.

    The Alpha and Omega. I am the Alpha and Omega in my family to be called David (my name), I am the Alpha and Omega in my family to have been in the Navy as well. Alpha and Omega means first and last, first letter of Greek alphabit and last. Now only in Revelation is this saying used both by Jahovah and his Son, in any case just because I or anyone else can use this expression doesn't mean I am Jahovah or Jesus nor anyone else who uses it, does it? Now Jahovah is the first and last Almighty Re 1:8. Jesus Christ is the First and Last Saviour for us where we can receive the water of life Re 21:6 and through him the New Creation will be built Re 22:13. The old creation has a short period of time left, death will be no more afterwards.

    Now about worship I may cover later, I've said enough and for those who are truely thirsty reach for the true drink, the everlasting drink which is given by our Lord, The Son Of Jahovah, Jesus Christ who has been revealed to his slave as JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.