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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Thanks for the link :).

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For those of you who wish to 'hear'

by kes152 in

may you all have peace!

when i was sent to speak to ones and they came back asking me why it is that we hear and they do not, i had taken it before my lord to ask him.

this is what he told me, their hearts are hard and they do not wish to hear what i tell them.

noko

Hi kes152,

Now what is the method or what do we have to do to hear? What will clean out our ears and eyes? What will erase our cynicism and purify our heart?

Can you explain to me the kings and priest that will reign with Christ for the 1000 years and the 144000 slaves sealed on the foreheads? Are they the same or are they different? May Yahwey and his son bless you.

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A little history on the Bible

by gumby in

it's always intresting to hear the answers you get from people about how and when the bible was formed.

many minds go only as far as believing it was simply a compilation of god ordained books that we have to this day.

below is just a small bit of information that many may not be familiar with.

noko

Some of the non canical works can be found in "The Lost Books of the Bible and the forgotten books of Eden" ISBN 0-529-02061-0 which is about the same size as a Bible. Contains the following and more:

The Gospel of the Birth of Mary
The Protevangelion or An Historical Account of the Birth of Christ, and . . .
The first Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ
Thomas Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ
The Epistles of Jesus Christ and Abgarus King of Edessa
The Gospel of Nicodemus, formely called the Acts of Pontius Pilate
The Apostles Creed
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Laodiceans
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Seneca, with Seneca's to Paul
The Acts of Paul and Thecla
The First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians
II Clement
The General Epistle of Barnabas
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Romans
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Philadelphians
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans
The Epistle of Ignatius to Polycarp
The Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians
The Shepherd of Hermas
2nd book of Hermas
3rd book of Hermas, which is also called his Similitudes
Letters of Herod and Pilate
Letter of Herod to Pilate the Governor
Letter of Pilate to Herod
The Epistle of Pontius Pilate
The Report of Pilate the Governor
The Report of Pontius Pilate
The Trial and condemnation of Pilate
The Death of Pilate
The Lost Gospel According to Peter
Forgotten Books of Eden

Some of the works are pure and obvious fiction while others show what was being thought of at the time in the Church. Some are obvious National Inquier type literature (if you want to call National Inquier literature ). Others are actually very good such as Clement 1 and 2, Hermas is also interesting. While some of the other writtings are an instant cure for insomia.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Could you say that in English, ahmmm rephrase that please .

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

hmmm, thought so.

Christ died, meaning he didn't always exist, meaning the trinity doctrine is what it always has been, a lie.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Good UDF, you just showed that the soul does not depart from us when we die because it is us that are souls that dies the same way as any animal.

Ec 3:19	Because the fate of the sons of men and the fate of the beasts is the same. As is the death of one so is the death of the other, and all have one spirit. Man is not higher than the beasts; because all is to no purpose.
Ec 3:20	All go to one place, all are of the dust, and all will be turned to dust again.
Ec 3:21	Who is certain that the spirit of the sons of men goes up to heaven, or that the spirit of the beasts goes down to the earth?

Read again UDF, Man is not higher than beasts, all go to one place, dust. The death of us is the same as the death of an animal and ALL HAVE ONE SPIRIT. Ec 3:21 Is a rhetorical question with the obvious answer that the Spirit is the gift of all life or breath from God and it goes back to him when we or an animal dies.

Now the sacrafice deals with life UDF, the life is in the blood, the true drink the spirtual blood of Christ in which he died once as the Bible says. When you sacrafice an animal the spirit returns to God, when Christ sacraficed himself his spirit returned to God. It is the spirit that matters, not the flesh.

Now you keep bringing up Rev 6:10, now you answer me, who are these souls preserved at Gods altar? What relationship do they have with Christ?

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Can you explain why the spirit of a man goes upward, but the spirit of an animal goes downward to the earth? What does that mean?

That is not what it says UDF.

So, are you saying that God referred to the mind and heart of Adam as "dust"?

The thoughts do perish when someone die's UDF.

Ps 146:4

His spirit departs, and he returns to the earth. In that very day, his thoughts perish.

Soul in the Bible means what makes you as in mind, body, thoughts, heart and what not. Now Satan said it wasn't so when you die.

You believe that Jesus existed in Heaven as the "Word" and "Son" before He was born as a Human, correct?

Yep.

You also believe that God transferred the Word from Heaven into Mary's womb, correct?

His life.

My question to you is: What did God transfer from the Word in Heaven into Mary's womb?

He laid down his life in heaven to become flesh UDF, so the answer again is his life.

Did God kill the Word

No. The word laid down his own life for a sacrafice for us.

Did God transfer the "Life-Force" ("spirit") from the Word and put it inside of a Human Body inside of Mary? If that is the case, then that must mean the "Life-Force" contains memory and personality.

Now Jesus had to learn like any other child UDF, he didn't have infinite wisdom. He had to be disclipline just like the rest of us. His diapers had to be changed and he did suck from Mary's breast. He was Human. The knowledge of his formal existence was wiped out until he was annointed by God. In other words no memory was there until he was annointed and the heavens where opened up to him.

Now the rest of your questions are either jeberish (sorry) or I don't have time to respond right now. More later.

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For those who ask, "why, God?"

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!

a dear one asked me some questions recently, including why god isn't... doing "anything"... and what is he doing.

for reasons of confidentiality, i will not name the person, but i am going to post some parts of our discussion, because i think it may put some things into "perspective" for some who truly wish to know:

noko

What is funny, everytime I read one of AGuest posts I think of the Oracle in the Matrix and hear her voice. Now I know AGuest would deny this this to the hills because she is no medium but that is my problem I guess. Hi AGuest, I love the Matrix as well and watched the blasted movie at least 30 times and waiting for Matrix Reload to come to DVD so that I can probably repeat my previous record. I did see Matrix Reload at the theator and had a blast. One of the few movies that got my brain cells active I might add. May Jah continue to bless you.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Ec 5:3

For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.

Taking heed of the above I will try to be short and hopefully to the point. I will briefly talk about Bible death teachings and leave it as that.

God clearly told Adam what death was,

Ge 3:19

In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

God was talking about Adam whole person, a living soul, not just his body "unto dust shalt thou return". Adam creation is describe as being formed by dust and God gave the breath of life or spirit making the him a living soul.

Ge 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Now what of the soul that sins? Soul meaning the whole person, what makes you or me what we are, in short we are living souls.

Eze 18:4

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

The body goes back to dust, the soul that sinneth die's, now what of the spirit? First what is the spirit? The spirit is the breath of life which belongs to God which is used as well on all living things.

Ec 3:19	For that which happens to the sons of men happens to animals. Even one thing happens to them. As the one dies, so the other dies. Yes, they have all one breath; and man has no advantage over the animals: for all is vanity.
Ec 3:20	All go to one place. All are from the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ec 3:21	Who knows the spirit of man, whether it goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, whether it goes downward to the earth?"

Our death is liken to animals, same breath, both with the spirit leaving.

Ec 12:7

And the dust returns to the earth as it was, And the spirit returns to God who gave it.

God is the one that gives the spirit, it is not the person but the life force or breath that makes all life possible. The spirit belongs to God who can take it back when he chooses.

Ps 104:29	You hide your face: they are troubled; You take away their breath: they die, and return to the dust.
Ps 104:30	You send forth your Spirit: they are created. You renew the face of the ground.
Ps 104:31	Let the glory of Yahweh endure forever. Let Yahweh rejoice in his works.

Now Satan said that you would not die if you sinned but would be like God, immortal. Enough said on this part.

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For those who ask, "why, God?"

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!

a dear one asked me some questions recently, including why god isn't... doing "anything"... and what is he doing.

for reasons of confidentiality, i will not name the person, but i am going to post some parts of our discussion, because i think it may put some things into "perspective" for some who truly wish to know:

noko

Naa, AGuest needs to just let it all hang out, ahmmm I mean let our Lord direct her steps. Frankly I think she is the sanest person/poster here, LOL, she makes utter sense to me. Oh well who ever said I was sane . . . Sister AGuest keep up the great posts if you would . . .