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We WERE expection it to move.
No, you weren't. You obviously believe ouija boards are supernatural and there's something to it. You believed the same for a styrofoam cup?
Now if we did a blinded test where you (unknowingly) held an object that wasn't a planchette, I bet it would move.
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Guess what? We couldn't do it.
Expectation is a big part of it, Warlock.
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My hand wasn't moving it.
Your hand was on it, right? Your subconscious combined with expectation was moving your hand. That's the ideomotor effect. Dousing/divining rods operate using the same principle.
If you and I put our hands on a pencil or pen, will it move?
If it was a circumstance where people were at some level expecting it to move, then yes, most likely. The actual object makes no difference. You blindfold people, sit them in front of a ouija board, tell them to put their hand on the planchette (which might be a big Oreo cookie in our little test), and it will move just as if it were a "real" planchette.
There is nothing supernatural going on.
after reading the ouji board thread, i wondered if anyone had "dared" anything of this nature.. i was always too scared to even watch movies with any of this content.
i do read my horoscope.
my great aunt was into the occult and she was told she would die before she was 50 when she was in her 30's.
I have no fear of such things. I do have some interest in trying out a fortune teller (just for kicks), but I can't bring myself to actually pay for such a service (scam).
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But the subconscience can move a planchette.
Not quite. Your subconscious moves your hand. Your hand moves the planchette. If you could move it directly with your subconscious while not touching it, that would be telekinesis.
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I don't believe in any sort of psychic power that can affect an external object (movement, temperature, etc). Telekinesis would be cool, but it's not real.
here's a set of youtube videos where propoganda techniques asks a ministerial servant and an elder about various jw related things and catches them lying about the book pay attention to yourselves and the flock.
the reaction of the elder is a must-see when he's confronted with what he said.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5odp3qa6oeo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anmrufrgtky.
Who is PropagandaTechniques? Does he post here?
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So then, EVERY time, in EVERY case, it is this Ideomotor effect that makes it move.
Can you cite one objectively verifiable case where the planchette moved because of some other (supposedly supernatural) means?
Your line of thinking is similar to the UFO believers: "How could every report, every piece of evidence, etc., be a hoax or mistake?" But guess what: there is not any objective, verifiable evidence that aliens have ever been here. All reports of aliens can certainly be wrong.
My stand with ouija boards is the same as it is with other "extraordinary claims." Show me the objective evidence and then I'll believe.
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So every time, in every case, this is why the planchette moves?
Have you ever seen it move without at least one person's hand on it? What is the most obvious answer to your question, then?
i've recently got a comcast movie package that gives all encore, hbo, cinemax, stars, showtime and ifc and other indie movies.
there are so many good movies that have been made that just didn't garner enough attention.. what movies do you think are good that weren't huge successes?.
Starship Troopers
