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  HELP. ELDERS COMING TO TALK WITH THE FAMILY

  by Thoughtless in

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  so after the annual meeting, on sunday, the elders want to talk with my family.

  i do not like this one bit.

  perhaps i am being exposed.

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  SyntaxError1974

  "I'm sorry, I already had plans for after. I was going out to eat with...I have a party to go to.... I already promised I would take Timmy to ...."
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  Today's WT Study (Who is the FDS - Sep 2013)

  by ohnightdivine in

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  please share how your wt study went today...

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  SyntaxError1974

  My pioneer wife looks at me half way thru and says "so if ONLY the GB are the FDS, then ONLY they are appointed over all things? I'm confused". I just looked at her with a blank, I have no idea stare.
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  Passing a resolution a painful experience

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  everybody knows it's going to pass.

  nobody ever asks if possibly that much money for the circuit overseer's whatever isn't a bit too much, or whatever else the congregation is being asked to agree to.

  then the call to raise your hand if in favor of doing the "right thing.

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  SyntaxError1974

  I don't have he guts to say it, but our cong can't afford a higher contribution. I just saw our accounts report for last month, $0.31 left in the account at the end of the month. I wish someone would raise thier hand and ask if we can currently afford to make this resolution.
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  Annual Meeting Question

  by grumblecakes in

  1. watchtower
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  good morning everybody!!.

  ok ive heard only "activejws in good standing" can attend, what if youre irreguar?

  how are they enforcing this?

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  SyntaxError1974

  In california, usa... No tickets required. Even minor unbaptised children are invited.
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  Due to Oct 5th WT Biz Meet all meetings for that week are cancelled

  by illoowy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was informed that due to oct 5th wt biz meet all meetings for that week are cancelled,.

  i asked if the mid week meeting was also and was told yes, because of the assembly.. it seems there's an overload of theocratic alternative banqueting feasts available so.

  that the regular menu at the kh is not necessary for that week.

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  SyntaxError1974

  It's just the weekend meeting canceled. It's on the back board in the letter about the AGM.
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  Bumpy weekend ahead

  by krejames in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my sister is coming to stay this weekend.

  although i'm sure she knows i'm not going to meetings, i don't know whether she realised i will not be going to any more meetings.

  not looking forward to that time on sunday when i tell her she's going on her own.

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  SyntaxError1974

  Or you could just eat raw chicken , old fish the night before....

  She could go, you would be home bound...
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  WATCHTOWER IN A PANIC!

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.

  at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.

  an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.

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  SyntaxError1974

  That "household donation survey " is not new. About a year or two back, when we remodeled our hall, a similar from was passed out. It was not an official society form. Just something one of the local brothers typed and copied. It was small, like a time slip. Almost word for word as quoted above.

  They then tallied the slips (in private) and decided on what size loan we could afford.
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  Are YOU a Believer, Atheist, Agnostic, Active JW or WHAT?

  by Greybeard in

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  sorry if this has been asked before but i would love to know the current ratio on this forum.. i'm a believer/christian former jw for 45 years... born in .

  what are you now and what were you?.

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  SyntaxError1974

  I am an active JW, MS. I have a talk about every other week. Was raised a JW. My wife is a reg pioneer. So why am I here?

  Well, as I'm teaching my 6 year old daughter our beliefs I started thinking. How do I know this is the "truth"? I mean, what I veil was taught to me by my dad. I'm sure he wouldn't lie to me anymore than I would lie to my girl. But if she is going to grow up hanging on every word I teach her, then I have a responsibility to make damn sure I'm right first.

  How do I know if what I believe is right? I guess according to my teachings I'm supposed to read the bible, and study my publications more. But I am now asking myself, how does reading the same side of an argument over and over PROVE that it is true? Don't you prove something by contrasting it against the opposing side? But we are not allowed to do that are we?

  So, out of duty to make sure my daughter is correctly informed, I have to come here to take in opposing viewpoints.
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  What's in it for them? (GB)

  by SyntaxError1974 in

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  if the wbts is just another business?

  then what do the gb get out of all this?.

  tim cook (ceo apple) makes around 378 million a year.. donald trump makes around 60 million a year.. i understand the wbts may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.. but i can't grasp the incentive for the gb to make this stuff up.

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  SyntaxError1974

  I am still "in" , active MS. Yes I know, "breaking all rules" being here. But, Im at crossroads and feel I can't make an informed decision with only half the facts. On this site I see some who are "attitudinal apostate". That is every other word is a personal dig or insult to WTBS or GB. From my perspective it's hard to swallow.

  But there are others that are "informational apostate". Instead of spewing insults, layout reasons, facts, proof...

  I come here to read that. Now my head is spinning with millions of questions, and not enough time to research the accuracy of them all.

  so that's my background. And I'm left with the question;

  If this is all a sham, someone on top must know. It's not the elders. They are blindly following. My dad is an elder, so I know. So then, who knows this is a scam? Who profits from it? I these guys (the GB) are nothing than snake oil salesmen, couldn't they make more money in other ventures? Take a salarie? Live in a mansion ? How do they cash out? A CEO makes a ton of money, and has something to leave his children as inheritance. What do they get?

  Either they are scamming us and secretly raking in money. Or they believe it. Otherwise, why do it?

  my head hurts....possibly over thinking here....
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  What's in it for them? (GB)

  by SyntaxError1974 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if the wbts is just another business?

  then what do the gb get out of all this?.

  tim cook (ceo apple) makes around 378 million a year.. donald trump makes around 60 million a year.. i understand the wbts may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.. but i can't grasp the incentive for the gb to make this stuff up.

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  IF the WBTS IS just another business? Then what do the GB get out of all this?

  Tim Cook (CEO Apple) makes around 378 Million a year.

  Donald Trump makes around 60 million a year.

  I understand the WBTS may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.

  But I can't grasp the INCENTIVE For the GB to make this stuff up. Do they believe this stuff themselves? Are they secretly cashing out financially somehow?