So, you're even lazier than Islanders. They need "only" 27, 000 hours to convert one people. Well, we are now talking about national averages, so variation within a country may be even greater.
Posts by Aaac
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Laziest recruiters are in N Europe and Japan
by Aaac inthe laziest jw recruiters in europe live in finland and in iceland.
there you need as much as 60 publishers to recruite one new baptized member.
in germany you need 48, in uk 51, france 52, bulgaria 21 and in russia only 16!
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Laziest recruiters are in N Europe and Japan
by Aaac inthe laziest jw recruiters in europe live in finland and in iceland.
there you need as much as 60 publishers to recruite one new baptized member.
in germany you need 48, in uk 51, france 52, bulgaria 21 and in russia only 16!
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Aaac
The laziest JW recruiters in Europe live in Finland and in Iceland. There you need as much as 60 publishers to recruite one new baptized member. In Germany you need 48, in UK 51, France 52, Bulgaria 21 and in Russia only 16! Canada is like North Europe - 50. USA and Mexico are like East - 34 resp. 28. Australia 42. Japan 83!
http://www.freakypixel.com/service_year/newMap.asp
Choose "The Ratio of publishers to baptized in Data-box.
Warning: This map is based on the Official Watchtower Data and designed by a JW...
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Your JW / ex-JW Experiences Needed - PLEASE!
by 2escaped lifers infor a new book project..... my wife and i are putting together a book project that will describe in detail the actual practical effects of wtbts beliefs and doctrines on the daily lives of average jw's.
there are currently books out there that describe the operation of the organization at the top levels (e.g.
crisis of conscience), books that take issue with jw doctrine and/or false predictions, and books about cults in general that mention jw's among other cultish organizations.
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Aaac
You may find this page useful:
http://medlem.spray.se/aaac/kokemuksia.html
Page with 500+ links to exJW experiences.
You'll naturally ask the writers' permission to quote.
Aaac
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List of exJW life experiences (500+)
by Aaac inwhen i was fading away, i read a lot of life experiences of former jw's.
it's good therapy!
that's why i created a site with lots of links to life experiences in different languages.
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Aaac
When I was fading away, I read a lot of life experiences of former JW's. It's good therapy! That's why I created a site with lots of links to life experiences in different languages. Now, there are more than 500 links.
http://medlem.spray.se/aaac/kokemuksia.html
It's in Finnish and English. If you know of an experience that is not there, please email me [email protected]
I can tell you, they are very interesting!
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Bethany Hughes Case in Canada
by Aaac inbethany's battle rages a year after her death
parents fight for custody of little sister .
http://www.canada.com/calgary/news/story.asp?id=4dab335e-f734-40dd-a667-d5cc211342fd.
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Aaac
Bethany's battle rages a year after her death
Parents fight for custody of little sister
http://www.canada.com/calgary/news/story.asp?id=4DAB335E-F734-40DD-A667-D5CC211342FD
Kerry Williamson
Calgary Herald
Thursday, July 17, 2003
When Bethany Hughes was buried at a north Calgary cemetery after her tough fight with cancer, her parents came together in tears and hugged beside her casket.
Close to a year later, however, and the once-close couple is again fighting through the courts, that moment amidst the grief of a funeral light years away.
"I wish we didn't have to do this," says Lawrence Hughes, Bethany's father, who fought hard to have his daughter undergo blood transfusions against her will and the will of her mother, Arliss. "It's not easy. But if this fight saves one life, it's worth it."
Hughes and his estranged wife will again face off in Calgary's Court of Queen's Bench this afternoon, a continuation of a bitter divorce and custody case sparked by the death of 17-year-old Bethany last September.
The Calgary teen died of acute myeloid leukemia while seeking alternative treatment at Edmonton's Cross Cancer Institute.
She made headlines nationwide after refusing to undergo blood transfusions because of her strong Jehovah's Witnesses faith.
Her father went against her and his wife, convincing the province to force his daughter to undergo 38 transfusions.
Bethany -- who used the name Mia in the media to protect her identity -- fought the protection order, claiming it was her right as a mature person to make her own medical decisions.
Bethany Hughes even tried to pull the medical tubes from her arms while bedridden at Alberta Children's Hospital.
Doctors who first determined she would die without transfusions eventually decided that she was too sick to face further chemotherapy sessions and gave up their custody of Bethany. She died Sept. 5, 2002.
Lawrence Hughes claims the Watchtower Society and his wife played a major role in his daughter's death by fighting the transfusions, and filed a scathing 17-point notice of motion with the court in April.
He is now fighting for sole custody of the couple's youngest daughter, 16-year-old Cassandra, who lives with her mother and is also a Jehovah's Witness. He claims he has only been allowed to see Cassandra three times since last summer, and is seeking to have her completely free of any influence of her faith and the society, which he believes has brainwashed his daughter and wife.
He is also calling on Arliss Hughes to be charged with criminal negligence over the death of Bethany, and for his wife and Cassandra to take "regular intense therapy sessions with a cult deprogrammer."
"I'm concerned about my daughter, what she's being taught and whether she will be allowed to get medical treatment if she falls sick," says Hughes.
"I want to be a part of her life. I want to see my daughter. I don't think it is right that I have to fight a billion-dollar corporation so I can see my daughter. I don't think that makes sense."
Shane Brady, the Toronto-based lawyer for Arliss Hughes, says Lawrence Hughes' allegations are "outrageous."
"He's saying that Arliss basically killed Bethany because she was so irresponsible, and because of that she shouldn't have custody of Cassandra," says Brady, whom Hughes also wants off the case because of his connections to the Watchtower Society.
"There's also some outrageous things being said about the religious community."
Arliss Hughes also wishes the court cases were over. She rigorously defends herself -- and her faith -- against any accusations that she put Bethany's health at risk, and believes Cassandra should be left to decide whom she lives with.
"I really don't see what this (Hughes' allegations) has to do with a divorce. This is about difference between a husband and a wife. In that sense, I think the children should be left out of it," she says. "This is about a couple who don't agree anymore, but who still love their children, and the children shouldn't be put in the middle."
Arliss Hughes says she did all she could to help Bethany. "I did everything she asked of me. We tried everything we could think of to get the doctors to take care of Bethany," she says.
As the anniversary of her death edges closer, the estranged couple do have one thing in common: the thoughts and memories of Bethany.
"To me, it's the little things that I think of, that remind me of her," says Arliss.
"I think of her every day," says Lawrence.
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Two JW elders sentenced in fleecing of elderly woman
by Aaac inhttp://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2003/05/13/newsbutte_top/hjjgjeigjbijja.txt
two sentenced in fleecing of elderly woman.
by vera haffey of the montana standard.
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http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2003/05/13/newsbutte_top/hjjgjeigjbijja.txt
Two sentenced in fleecing of elderly woman
By Vera Haffey of The Montana Standard
DEER LODGE — Jehovah's Witnesses church elders who fleeced a 100-year-old Deer Lodge woman out of more than $6 million were remanded to Montana State Prison after a sentencing hearing in Powell County District Court Monday.Deer Lodge resident Una Anderson, 101, greets family member Suzy Colbo after the sentences were handed out to Darryl Willis and Dale Erickson at Powell County District Court Monday afternoon. Darryl Willis, 64, Helena, and Dale Erickson, 54, Missoula, were sentenced Monday in Powell County district court to 10 years in prison with four years suspended
each for felony charges of
conspiracy and theft; three years with one suspended for felony conspiracy, and two years with one suspended for securities fraud, also a felony. That amounts to an aggregate 25 years in prison with 10
suspended.
The two are also ordered to make $6.5 million in restitution. And, during the probationary period of their sentence, they may not control anyone's finances.
District Judge Ted Mizner said the sentence represents a "small measure of justice" for Una Anderson, whose life savings and family ranch were lost in a befriend-and-betray scheme. The men used a complex system of trusts and interlocking companies to steal Anderson's money, lived in expensive homes, drove luxury cars and traveled extensively abroad to places like London and the Caribbean while depleting her trust fund money, according to court records.
Erickson and Willis sat
calmly throughout the proceedings. Afterward, their family members wept in a huddle in the courtroom.
Anderson, who is now 101, said she is glad that justice was served, but is sad for the men who made poor decisions and ruined their lives.
"It's sad to think of those two young people," she said of Erickson and Willis. "My life has been good, but it's almost over. They had everything ahead of them."
A few spectators and family members attended the sentencing hearing in the biggest theft case in Montana history. Some were called as witnesses and questioned, then cross-examined.
Brandon Morgan Willis told the court his father was generous and loving, the kind of person who would go back to a store to return money if a cashier made a mistake and gave too much change. The elder Willis "lost his savvy" when poor health fell upon him in the mid-1990s, leaving his decision-making skills compromised, Brandon Willis said.
But prosecuting attorney Mark Murphy pointed out that Willis continued drawing a wage for managing Una Anderson's trust, despite his claims to ill health and an inability to perform. That included a brokerage fee of $400,000 for illegally and secretly selling Anderson's Powell County ranch.
Family members and a social worker for Adult Protective Services, Janel Pliley, testified at the hearing and asked the court to impose the maximum sentences allowable by law. Leveling the maximum penalty would make it easier to prosecute the 250 or so cases of elder abuse she handles each year. That would be 40 years in prison.
Sarah Kelson, who lives with Una Anderson at her aunt's modest home on the outskirts of town, described the white collar criminals' attitude towards the charges as "cavalier," and said they expressed no remorse. She also asked for maximum
penalties.
Kelson Colbo, whose grandfather was Una Anderson's first cousin, said Erickson and Willis used Anderson's trust with the church as leverage to convince her to trust them with her finances.
The case was brought to the attention of Sheriff Scott Howard in September 2001 by members of the elderly woman's family and Pliley. Because of the magnitude of the allegations, County Attorney Chris Miller and Howard enlisted the help of state officials.
Assistant Attorney Generals Mark Murphy and Melissa Broch led the prosecution team. Murphy specializes in white-collar crime, and Broch is experienced in complex
litigation.
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www.escapethewatchtower.com new website
by Hamas ini just changed that slow ass free web hosting and web redirection.
check it out now !
( the funk soul brother )
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A new way to "give" hypocritical "witness" in hospitals?
by Aaac ini found this at http://www.tvgonline.org/index.html.
(red and "****(name)" are added by me).
snail mail wanted.
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Aaac
Is this a new way to "give witness" in hospitals? I found this at http://www.tvgonline.org/index.html
(red and "****(name)" are added by me)
Snail Mail Wanted I'm going to be in the Hospital for one month - please snail mail me....
Here is a chance for our . . . brothers and sisters to give a good witness to the staff and patients by sending a note to me from all over the world... they WILL notice because the mail is put on a counter for us to pick up on our way to our room and it will give me a chance to explain our world wide brotherhood etc etc.
Wouldn't it be exciting to receive 451 notes of encouragement? WOW! what a witness that would be!
My admission date to GF Strong Hospital is April 14, Monday. (I will be there approx 1 month +)
Please snail-mail all your jokes, stories, pictures, service experiences, even your junk mail *smile*, news about your life and anything you think might brighten and bring a smile to my day to:
Address:
********(name)c/o Arthritis - 4th Floor
GF Strong Rehab
4255 Laurel Street
Vancouver, BC
Canada V5Z 2G9
There would be nothing nicer than to come back to my room and find an encouraging note from you after a hard day in physio-therapy etc....I look forward to hearing from you.
Christian Love,
your sister,
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JW Pedophiles Program in Germany
by Aaac in[zurck zur bersicht]
sonntag, 16. februar 2003, 16:30 - 17:00 .
ende des schweigens .
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Sonntag, 16. Februar 2003, 16:30 - 17:00
Ende des Schweigens
Sexueller Mibrauch bei den Zeugen Jehovas
Ein Film von Monika Schuck und Gaby FuestMit der Ankunft von Bill Bowen auf dem Frankfurter Flughafen kommt wieder Hoffnung in das Leben der 17jhrigen Zeugin Jehovas: Der Grnder der US-Organisation "Silent-Lambs" machte den sexuellen Missbrauch bei den Zeugen Jehovas ffentlich. Und er verspricht auch Jutta zu helfen.
Schweigen sollte sie, um den Ruf der "Zeugen Jehovas" nicht zu beschdigen. Das verlangten die ltesten von ihr als sie um Hilfe bat, weil ihr Vater sie sexuell missbrauchte. Auch er war ein "Zeuge Jehovas", ein angesehener hoher Gemeindevertreter dazu.
Statt Hilfe bekam sie Drohungen. Andere Frauen berichten hnliches: Man glaubte ihnen nicht, kndigte an, jeden aus der Glaubensgemeinschaft auszuschlieen, der auerhalb Hilfe suchte. Die Tter konnten unbehelligt weiter agieren.
Ein Insider, ein ehemaliger ltester der "Zeugen Jehovas" aus den USA schaffte das schier Unmgliche: er machte Frauen Mut - und sie brachen ihr Schweigen. Seine Selbsthilfegruppe "silentlambs" ist zur Anlaufstelle und Hoffnung fr Opfer auch aus Deutschland geworden.
Einige bewahrte er damit vor dem Selbstmord, zum Beispiel Jutta. Von ihr und anderen Frauen, die nicht lnger schweigen, erzhlt der Film von Monika Schuck und Gaby Fuest.
in English by Altavista:Sunday, 16 February 2003, 16:30 - 17:00
End of the silence
Sexual abuse at the witnesses Jehovas
A film of Monika Schuck and Gaby FuestWith the arrival of Bill Bowen on Frankfurt airport comes again hope into the life of the 17jaehrigen witness Jehovas: The founder of the US organization " silent Lambs " made the sexual abuse at the witnesses Jehovas public. And it promises to help also Jutta.
Silence should it, in order not to damage the call " of the witnesses " Jehovas. _ the require the old of it as they around assistance ask, because their father they sexual abuse. Also he was " a witness Jehovas ", an outstanding high gemeindevertreter in addition.
Instead of assistance she got threats. Other women report something similar: One believed them not, announced, to exclude everyone from the religious community which outside of assistance searched. The authors could act undisturbed further.
A Insider, a former oldest one " of the witnesses Jehovas " from the USA created the almost impossible: it made Mrs. Mut - and they broke their silence. Its group of self-helps " silentlambs " became the approach place and hope for victims also made of Germany.
Some retained it thereby before the suicide, for example Jutta. Of it and other women, which are not silent longer, the film of Monika Schuck and Gaby Fuest tells. -
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what kingdom melody is still stuck in you head??
by christopherceo ini find myself whistling several when working and when i catch up with what's going on i stop.
anybody else?
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Aaac
You can listen to them here: