Posts by Abaddon

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4/20 - smoke'em if ya got'em

by BrendaCloutier in

jw
friends

accepted origin

, high times magazine, the marijuana-logues, and the straight dope claim that in the early 1970s, a group of teenagers at san rafael high school in san rafael, california used to meet every day after school at 4:20 p.m. to smoke marijuana at the water tower.

one piece of evidence supporting an origin of the term from the time 4:20 is the fact that the number is always said "four twenty" and not "four hundred twenty.

Abaddon

XJW4EVR

Ah, the attempt at moral equivalency; Or is this an attempt at shutting up those that express a negative opinion?
The last time I looked I could voice an opinion about any topic; At least it used to be that way in the America I knew.

You funny; no one said you couldn't give an opinion; hell, here you are arguing with pot smokers and you don't even exercise elementary reading skills yourself.

You don't seem to like having your opinion questioned or shown to be simplistic by means of a simple comparison.

As for the validity of your expressed opinion (pot smoking = slide to moral debris) is (as far as most people go) non existent, but you yourself might have an addictive nature and not be able to stop moving from the use of a recreational substance to the ABuse of a recreational substance, so you might just be talking about yourself... well?

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The Origin-of-Life Foundation, Inc. The Secret $1,000,000 Prize

by Deputy Dog in

from http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v9i11f.htm

the secret $1,000,000 prize

one of the best kept secrets of science is the origin of life prize sponsored by the origin of life foundation, inc. when we first ran across their web site (www.lifeorigin.org), we thought that the offer of one million dollars to anyone who could propose a plausible theory for the origin of life was just a slick creationist trick for showing that the emperor had no clothes.

Abaddon

elderwho

So there, nanny, nanny boo, boo. Apperantley you dont like the onus.

LOL. Look, it is up to YOU to explain YOUR presuppostions. You are acting like there is proof of god, or a vlaid theory of how god came about. There is not. If you assert there is a god, prove it, don't partake in Shining One style intellectual dishonesty, you're better than that. Aren't you?

Or are not qualified to handle, said starting.

Even Microsoft Word would tell you that is a fragment of a sentence. When you finish it, I'll reply to it fully. Someone with your level of knowledge about evolutionary biology really shouldn't talk about qualifications, by the way; it's likely to make you look foolish and hypocritical.

If you think my belief re: starting of life is ridiculous then get it started for me

And what removes the same onus from you other than your complacent, primative, unproven belief in a skyman?

and please do not rely on "newspaper evolutionism."

Oh, I don't. The fact you have to misrepresent my argument (i.e., effectively lie about what I say) says more about the validity of your opinion than you'd probably like it to.

The fact theistic and nontheistic theories of origin of life are unprovable
Hey genius, there's reasoning in the corner of the round room.

Why do you want to make yourself look bad? Any fool can tell you have absolutely no argument of worth, only bluster and resentment. Engage in the discussion rather than imitating the vain posturing of such illustrious posters as hooby and Shiney, or be regarded as seriosuly as they are.

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The Origin-of-Life Foundation, Inc. The Secret $1,000,000 Prize

by Deputy Dog in

from http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v9i11f.htm

the secret $1,000,000 prize

one of the best kept secrets of science is the origin of life prize sponsored by the origin of life foundation, inc. when we first ran across their web site (www.lifeorigin.org), we thought that the offer of one million dollars to anyone who could propose a plausible theory for the origin of life was just a slick creationist trick for showing that the emperor had no clothes.

Abaddon

ellderwho

So, get god started just once. The fact theistic and nontheistic theories of origin of life are unprovable does not mean bronze-age goat herds were right.

Abiogenesis aside, evolution is so well supported its unreasonable to doubt the general theory; even if there are mistakes or revisons are made as new evidence is discovered, or methods of studying evidence are refined. Only people who know little about evolution think such things effect the overall validity of the theory demonstrated by the evidence. It's not a question of being fundamentally wrong or right any longer. It's a question of getting better.

There is no credible alternative theory to explain the diversity of life around us; especially not ones with magic sky-men involved. And drawing a line in the sand at abiogenesis is a really bad idea, as I wish you a long and happy life and am pretty sure there will be such proof within your lifetime. If your belief in god is based on abiogenesis being impossible and they then go make life in a lab you have problems. If your idea of god is bigger than that of the aforementioned goatherds, you won't be bothered

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UPDATE 2: Since Freedom is Free, Why is it Taxed?

by RichieRich in

jw
friends

yesterday after school i had to go work on a project with friends.

mom said be home by 5, but there was a huge accident a mile from where i live, and i sat on the road for like 10 - 12 minutes, and was 5 minutes late getting home.

mom was there (didn't go to work- guess why) and she was pissed.

Abaddon

Richie

"No one provokes me with impunity."

Yes, quite. You're a remarkable young man; I wish I had your balls when I was your age. I don't blame you for being angry about this. All the stuff now landing in your lap is what stopped me, I admire you for your courage (and Abbadette does too). At least she has me; as far as family goes, you're horribly isolated.

And even if our parents are crazy cultic retards, it is hard to hurt them.

I don't know US law, but I think you're getting good advice from smart posters - and can understand your reluctance to get the law involved. But remember, you're not doing anything wrong. However, getting your income secure seems a no brainer. I hope you can hold things together and complete High School, and am thinking of you.

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4/20 - smoke'em if ya got'em

by BrendaCloutier in

jw
friends

accepted origin

, high times magazine, the marijuana-logues, and the straight dope claim that in the early 1970s, a group of teenagers at san rafael high school in san rafael, california used to meet every day after school at 4:20 p.m. to smoke marijuana at the water tower.

one piece of evidence supporting an origin of the term from the time 4:20 is the fact that the number is always said "four twenty" and not "four hundred twenty.

Abaddon

Well. I'm already had a wee smoke before bedtime, and was going to bed, but in honour I'll roll another one...

... and wonder if the conspiracy behind threads discussing drugs mysteriously disappearing is run by aliens or Illuminati...

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suffereing at the hands of Muslims for being a Christian

by stillajwexelder in

i think you will find this interesting and maybe even eye-opening.

look up brigitte on google.

an amazing woman who has suffered at the hands of muslims for being a christian and knows whereof she speaks.

Abaddon

stilljw, what you ignore in your eagerness to attack Islam is (I assume you know);

Most Muslims do NOT regard Jews or Christian as Infidels; they are people of the Book, and not subject to the undeniably harsh way of treating most unbelivers that Islam shares with Christianity.
That political inference by Christian powers in the government of Islamic countries has resulted in the overthrow of democartic governments, the impostion of a tyranical puppet, and the subsequent Ismlamic Revolution that would have never happened under the democratic goverment the Christian Powers deposed (Iran). The rise of a tyrant (Iraq). The continuation of chaos in Palestine.
People are beastly to each other all the time for no good reason. They are also really nice to each other all the time for no good reason. Most of the time they are the same religion. What point are you trying to make? It's not like Christian governments can claim they haven't done great harm in the Middle East, or that innocent Muslims have not suffered due to the policies of Christian goverments. No one is denying Muslims can be 'unpleasent to Christians' - and no one should deny the reverse is true.

You were a cultist and are still a jw; I realise the two aren't the same. Don't become a bigot, you're probably far too nice a guy to do that to yourself. If you finger point another faith without looking at your own or others, that is the risk you run. Mote, beam, speck, rafter; not you personally, but Christianity.

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should I disassociate myself or wait to get disfellowshipped?

by Mrs.Congeniality in

my closes friend asked me today if her and her husband should just go ahead and write a letter of disassociation or wait to be df.

many months ago i talked with them about 607, etc.

all the things i was finding out.

Abaddon

First of all, don't play by their rules.

If you join a childhood club with friends based on imaginary stuff, you don't write a letter saying you are dissassociating yourself from the Tutfty Club when you 'grow-up'. Unless it suits YOU and your intentions, why should one DA because it's expected? Yes, expected by whom, and why should one care what they think now?

I walked away, managed to avoid DF'ing, and decided to just let it be as I thought it the best way of staying on good relations with my family. It suited me.

Might not suit them. But it's another option.

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Who really has the "TRUTH"???

by architect in

even if all else looks bad, due to the fact that jw's preach the goodnews of the kingdom in harmony with matt 28, doesn't this make them the true religion since technically no other religion can make this claim?

Abaddon

garybuss

Yes. And beautifully put.

Shining One

Oh hello you.

>Anyone who follows a god that says 'Worship me or i'll KILL you' is as far from the TRUTH as the earth is from the sun.
You are talking about the cult teaching, right?

Nice to know you sometimes can see something that walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck is in all probability a duck.

Now if you mean that the Bible teaches that, you are absolutely wrong. All souls live on after the physical realm is traversed. There are two possibilities, 'smoking or non-smoking'.

Oh this is fun. First of all the caring sharing Christian love just coming out at you. I didn't know imitating Christ involved Dennis Leary meets Pat Robinson style stand-up. How... refreshing. And oh, for those of you who do know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, the additional hair-splitting between the ceasing of a consciousness and the eternal torment of a consciousness. Nice.

What is reality? Is it the physical realm we inhabit now or the afterlife where our souls will reside for eternity?

The former is provable, the latter is unfounded speculation you have no more proof of than someone who believes Thor makes thunder.

>The Bible doesnt contain any TRUTH, if anything it distracts consciousness from what is actual, real and true!
Really? How can you KNOW that? Prove your assertion.

Nuuuurh... we do not have to share your presupposition the Bible is true - the very error the person who starts this thread seems to make. I mean, what use is it saying you have the right oil filters for your car as you have a manual if you have a manual for the wrong car? As we do not have to share your presupposition, for your opinion to be worth a tinkers damn in this regard you have to prove the Bible is accurate. Which so far you have failed to do quite spectacularly. The number of people you put off with your opinion regarding the Bible's meaning and validity I couldn't devangelise in a month of Sundays. You are the one making the assertion, silly. Prove it.

I'm glad the treatment is going well and you've got some Internet hours back in previldges...

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The Origin-of-Life Foundation, Inc. The Secret $1,000,000 Prize

by Deputy Dog in

from http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v9i11f.htm

the secret $1,000,000 prize

one of the best kept secrets of science is the origin of life prize sponsored by the origin of life foundation, inc. when we first ran across their web site (www.lifeorigin.org), we thought that the offer of one million dollars to anyone who could propose a plausible theory for the origin of life was just a slick creationist trick for showing that the emperor had no clothes.

Abaddon

slacker911

Good to see you here too; now go to your room, you've been a naughty boy poor hooby-wooby got a boo-boo.

One of the most wonderful things about people of such a mindset is that they set themselves up to be ridiculed by their own actions. It's almost enough to restore one's faith in human nature.

Reminds me of weebles, those little egg-shaped toy people that don't fall over. It's not like the fact it keeps on popping back up no matter how hard it gets whacked means it is tough or smart; it's a senseless lump of plastic.

But, as has been pointed out, more people get a grounding in why Creationism is ignorant supersticious nonsense from threads like this than would otherwise happen. We could write posts about evolutionary biology all day that wouldn't appeal to those most in need of the information they contained.

Hooberus and those like him unwittingly provide fantastic opportunities to correct the misconceptions about and distortions of evolutionary biology such vulnerable ones have, as they are more likely to be attracted to threads defending what they have been conditioned to believe.

I firmly believe most realise through such discussions just how wrong and deceptive the arguments used by Creationists and ID-ots are. It's just a tad amusing that Creationists et. al don't realise the best thing they could do is avoid such discussions, as they are entirely counter-productive to their goals.

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Measuring your spirituality

by architect in

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where in the scriptures do we find that a persons spirituality is judged by how many meetings, how many field service hours and comments one makes?

(this is practiced in the congregations in case you didnt know)

Abaddon

steve2

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of something like that as a reply... I was going for '12 inches of throbbing spirituality', but decided against it as it sounds like something off a Dubbie MySpace profile...