Posts by Abaddon

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Bilderberg Group - Conspiracy theory or a scary reality? (NWO)

by zagor in

from time to time this new phenomenon hits the mainstream media, though usually it is below the radar and public scrutiny.

for those not familiar with it bilderberg is a group of most powerful and most influential leader who according to many conspiracy theorist rule the world and are according to them poised to introduce new world order whatever that means to them.

now i'm the first to dismiss these kinds of things, you know, usual freemasonry etc.

Abaddon

abbagail

You're a total hot-head, Abbadon.

Given what you believe in your beliefs about me are of amazingly little consequence.

You hate the idea there really is a big bad wolf that seeks world domination, obviously, so what do we have to say to each other?

I am sure you will repeat your unprovable fantasies again and again, as it serves to feed your need to feel important and special. I find you using a metaphor that invokes the imagery of fairy stories stunningly appropriate. I have already said what I have to say to you; seek medical help, and apologize for parroting Nazi propaganda.

Suit yourself. The daily evidence is all around us. Maybe because it's where you live you can't see the forest for the trees, I don't know. Over here it's No Big Secret, and anybody with half a brain, or who does not stick their head in the sandpit, can see the developments.

Please don't assume I am quite as jaw-droppingly ignorant as those who do believe this nonsense. Although 36% of Americans believe that the modern state of Israel is part of the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy relating to the second coming (Pew Institute), as 60% can't even find Israel on a world map (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12591413/) I don't find their opinions about such things particularly informed or reliable. I don't know whether you can find Israel on a map, but

And as usual, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. There was one quote from the Protocols, #15. Period. It's an astounding document, everyone should read it once in their life. You want to believe it's fake. Go ahead, suit yourself. I don't give a hoot what the "experts" say because the "experts" are the same ones working for the global elite, and they are great at suckering in hot-heads like you who want to live in a dream world.

LOL. Too damn complacent and smug you're not even going to LOOK at the evidence relating to them being fabricated?

I'm not the least bit interested in your opinions,

Or facts, or truth or honesty...

I love the way you swing into the equivalent of 'but I have black/gay friends' speech that comes out of the mouth of people who get called on displaying beliefs or attitudes that show their bigotry.

You want to make a big issue that I'm some type of anti-semite?

Now you're lying about me. I have said you use the same material to back your claims as anti-Semites. I know your ability to read and understand is low, but please try to avoid lying about what I say. Even you must realise Christians shouldn't lie.

It's such a lame game you guys play. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You think by making a big flame with your graphic and make all sorts of loud bashing statements that you are going to what? What it is you want anyway?

To show you for what you are; a sad, vain, ill-informed person. I don't do the job that well, as you're not worth the time, but when you reply to me you show it very clearly to anyone who reads this, which is why I do it. The more I keep you talking the more absurd you appear, and yet, due to your vanity, you can't stop blowing your own trumpet of doom.

But do I like world-domination control freaks who at the very top top top of the heirarchy are either Jewish -- or SAY they are -- and who want to make me a serf in their ego-maniacal kingdom? NO THANKS! I don't care what "color" or "ethnicity" or "race" they are.

I notice you again display your bigoted paranoia. Please do check the meaning of the word bigot before claiming you are not one; "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices".

Maybe then you'll wake up and smell the Jewish roses.

LOL; you trip yourself up, you really do. "I love Jews" to 'smell the Jewish roses" in a few paragraphs.

Keep it up abbagail, one vain religious freak like you puts more people off religion than a thousand atheists.

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Interesting Critique of Naturalism

by Perry in

naturalism and ethics.

why is it that certain actions are morally right, others morally wrong, and some morally neutral?

where does the demand of normativity come from?

Abaddon

This is predictable trash from Perry; he recently had to tell god that god couldn't be part of Perry's religion as god didn't come up to Perry's standards...

If I thought there was the remotest chance there might be a rewarding discussion with him, I'd take the time to point out that the concept of human rights is an extremely good platform upon which to base ethics, in addition to listing the legion errors in the argument he has plagiarized without accreditation (http://apologetics.johndepoe.com/naturalism-ethics.html) It is a good thing Perry believes he is already saved, as that way he can be dishonest and still retain the self-righteousness so essential to his personality. It is also interesting he lacks the courage to do anything but this cut and paste heroics; I suppose despite appearances to the contrary he is at least smart enough to avoid debate with people he knows from experience will simply make him look stupid. But what do you expect from a parrot? It's quite impressive a parrot can manipulate a mouse and press CTRL C or CTRL V at the same time, but making sense as well ? The least his owner could do is scrape all the guano off the parrot's perch...

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Bilderberg Group - Conspiracy theory or a scary reality? (NWO)

by zagor in

from time to time this new phenomenon hits the mainstream media, though usually it is below the radar and public scrutiny.

for those not familiar with it bilderberg is a group of most powerful and most influential leader who according to many conspiracy theorist rule the world and are according to them poised to introduce new world order whatever that means to them.

now i'm the first to dismiss these kinds of things, you know, usual freemasonry etc.

Abaddon

Here we see abbagail's level of dellusion; amongst all this rubbish she is quoting from 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.

This document is recognised as an utter fabrication, and has been used by anti-semites since it was first published; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocol_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Its fabricated nature hs been widely known and proven since he 1920's, but that didn't stop the Nazi's using it, nor neo-nazi's and other anti-semites using it to this day. But ignorance often walks hand in hand with hate, so this is no surprise.

So abbagail, will you continue to spread lies as you currently do, or apolgise for spreading the same evil nonsense that the Nazis spread?

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Bilderberg Group - Conspiracy theory or a scary reality? (NWO)

by zagor in

from time to time this new phenomenon hits the mainstream media, though usually it is below the radar and public scrutiny.

for those not familiar with it bilderberg is a group of most powerful and most influential leader who according to many conspiracy theorist rule the world and are according to them poised to introduce new world order whatever that means to them.

now i'm the first to dismiss these kinds of things, you know, usual freemasonry etc.

Abaddon

abbagail

Oh Abaddon, Abaddon... laugh away... and enjoy it while you can...
Your namesake gives away your allegiance, so who is surprised at your attitude?
Revelation 9:11 -- And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew [is] Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

What makes you think it is my namesake? Silly human fool! Bwahahahaha! Bwahahahaha! I and my demon children will come to you in the night!! Bwahahahah! The black helicopters have been dispatched and are hovering silently outside your home!!!

Look, seek professional help, okay? My mate Neil is not Jesus, he's mentally ill. You do not have a unique insight on the Bible and current history, you are mentally ill.

Brother Apostate

Are you seriously saying you believe that the theory of natural selection originates from the occult? Or was that ironic?

zagor

That is an interesting comment by you Abaddon, I would still appreciate if you submit your thoughts in a respectful manner.

Why? Should I pander to delusional conspiracists or those who believe that they have a unique scriptural insight?

I started this thread and do not ridicule any opinion no matter how extreme they may appear to me.

Good for you. I see equal value in calling spades spades.

I wanted to have a frank and open discussion about it. Ridiculing something just shuts down the investigation.

I ridiculed one thing in particular;

At least there are a couple of sane voices. Some, however, seem to have learned nothing about the dangers of sub-moronic Biblical numerology or the standards of evidence that extraordinary claims should have. Such people are so caught up in their own end-times psycho drama they miss the obvious faults in what passes for their 'logic'.

By all means let me know whether you believe in such nonsense; if you don't, please let me know why you feel taking delusional people seriously is a good idea.

And that is what this board is all about to help people deal with certain issues not to shut them down, because if you do you are more likely to solidify their beliefs in things that may appear on fringe to you.

From experience I disagree. You get nowhere by pandering or being condescending to people and making them think you take them seriously. Only by making people examine their beliefs, defend their beliefs, do you have any chance of having them become receptive to change. You might feel subterfuge is the best way for this, you're not clear. I feel honesty is best. I have a friend who went through a messianic phase a while back; smacking his nonsense right back at him was the best thing I could have done; underneath any prevailing mental condition, these people aren't normally stupid you know.

As regards Gemini 5, well; Cooper has alleged the US government was covering up UFO's...

Most people realise when they think about it that what we have in the shops now is often available to some extent in prototype form maybe 20 years previously.

Whether it is this that lies at the heart of the story, or Cooper's imagination conflating later satellite photography with what he did then, I don't know.

Here's an example of what we know NOW was state-of-the-art in the mid 1960's;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Janeskh11leakedphoto.jpg

This would have been achieved with a 2.3m mirror giving about 6" theoretical resolution; not quite good enough for a number plate. Whatever photographic equipment Gemini 5 had, it didn't include a camera like that; Gemini was the size of a VW Beetle.

Of course, this is from very low Earth orbit. And time-over-target for such is low; orbital times would be c. 1.5-2 hours. Geo-sync satellites have infinite time-over-target but poorer resolution being around 100 times further away.

As with the Bildenburg group, most room for speculation is removed by a little bit of research. Physics is a good starting point to determine the capabilities of spy satellites.

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Bilderberg Group - Conspiracy theory or a scary reality? (NWO)

by zagor in

from time to time this new phenomenon hits the mainstream media, though usually it is below the radar and public scrutiny.

for those not familiar with it bilderberg is a group of most powerful and most influential leader who according to many conspiracy theorist rule the world and are according to them poised to introduce new world order whatever that means to them.

now i'm the first to dismiss these kinds of things, you know, usual freemasonry etc.

Abaddon

I have a job interview to go on so don't have the time to give this thread the ridicule it deserves. At least there are a couple of sane voices. Some, however, seem to have learned nothing about the dangers of sub-moronic Biblical numerology or the standards of evidence that extraordinary claims should have. Such people are so caught up in their own end-times psycho drama they miss the obvious faults in what passes for their 'logic'.

Still, gave me a laugh...

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MRS EVIL GETS 14 YEARS

by Kent in

jw
friends

here is another story about the "loving" jws and child custody.. a wicked foster mum who brutalised, tortured and starved three children over almost two decades was jailed for 14 years yesterday.

Abaddon

Yeah, killing mental animals really gets the non-violence message over well.

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Someone making lifesized replica of Noah's Ark in Holland

by MadTiger in

go to the yahoo!

homepage.

Abaddon

It is only half-sized, I was reading about it in the papers.

It has a cinema and models of some of the animals.

In one leap this guy has taken believers in the Noachilan Flood from obscurity to ridicule, good job!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6604879.stm

Catch the comment by the out-to-lunch American tourist...

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Your View On BREASTFEEDING In Public

by minimus in

jw
friends

last night on the news a woman was told by a store manager that she could not in public breastfeed her child.

she and her husband were quite offended and complained to the company's main offices.

they are now looking into this situation.. what's your opinion?

Abaddon

I want the right to breastfeed in public. And I am a man...

I think what some people are losing sight of here is the right to look the other way.

To put their own foibles over the needs of every nursing mother and child they ever see is petty. Why should the mother and child scurry into a corner or a special room because you think turning your head and showing some tolerence is too much to do? It's almost like you're looking to take offence. It's a mother - possibly a new mother, probably a tired mother, and a #ucking BABY. Give them a break.

As for freaks intruding into other's space, all you have to do is look the other way and shut up and you won't be intruding into a nursing mother's space anymore. Simple, eh?

Considering the 'suffer the little children' scream that went up over Janet Jackson's nipple from parents whose kids see multiple acts of violence on TV everyday, it's obviously a cultural attitude towards nudity Europe just laughs at. As breast-feeding is non-sexual (well freaks might think it is sexual) it's good to see the vast majority of Americans don't have a problem with that.

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Could PBRs prove flood wasn't worldwide?

by badboy in

jw
friends

pbrs (precariously balanced rocks),accoring to an article innew scientist,studies suggest some have been in their present position for 10,500 years.. a worlwide flood would have dislodged them ron their positions..

Abaddon

"whisked away by God's Miraculous Hand?"

Oh yeah baby, don't stop, don't stop... oh yeah... oh god oh god oh god!!!!!!

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Gun control logic

by Gregor in

the v tech shooter bought his guns legally.

gun control laws don't stop this kind of determined killer anywhere in the world.

the defenseless victims couldn't carry a gun legally on campus if they had one.

Abaddon

Bother Apostate

Yes, of course, and the primary purpose of a knife is killing,

Depending on variety. I'd be quite happy to agree a single shot low calibre pistol was not primarily intended for killing. There is a difference bwteeen a butter knife and a Fairburn-Sykes

and the primary purpose of a bow and arrow is killing,

Yes, we really need to cut down on those ride-by arrowings...

and the primary purpose of a ball is killing, and the primary purpose of a vehicle is killing,

Does being silly have a point?

and the primary purpose of a an axe is killing,

Historically no. A unsharp impact weapon does this well enough in a pre-armour era. Axes were undoubtedly primarily designed for cutting wood.

Just be honest; guns were invented to kill and most are still designed to kill. Your... I think you like the phrase 'weasel words'... don't change facts.

TD

With respect, Abaddon, I think you could probably make a more plausible argument that the 2nd amendment is outdated and archaic today. The path you have taken here strikes me as problematic.

LOL. You are quite right. But it is impossible to reach semantic closure on the 2nd A either way, as it is phrased so badly. Please realise I have had this argument many times since abou '97 and I now am well aware that amendment won't happen and the primary cause of so many deaths is not gun availability, although that does not help.

I think amendment on grounds of the damage to society now caused by liberal gun laws is the real grounds though, but one that won't happen before 2050 if ever.

The US are trapped in the current situation as regards availablity of guns. Only social reform can change the violence in American society.