JWDaugher, glad you pointed out your gay friend. I have exactly opposite experience. I know or knew gay couple not far from me. One of them was ex-Mormon, but died of natural causes at age 50+. He was with his partner for very long time and started to suffer with various debilitating issues due diabetes on his feet. Had heart attack, etc. Nobody from his Mormon family came to visit him once, nor attended his funeral. However, they arrived with moving truck with idea that everything he owned will be theirs. I am not kidding. Glad the state had approved SSM year earlier, and family was out of luck. So after a lot of argument with the surviving spouse, they got old peace furniture from their grandma and left.
Posts by kaik
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24Mormons vs. Jehovah's Witnesses
by Downtowner inforgive me if this has been covered before but i haven't seen anything about it recently.. in exploring the two faiths, mormons vs. jehovah's witnesses, which were both founded in the 1800s with the mormons being slightly a slightly older religion it seems mormons is a more attractive religion than jehovah's witnesses.
do not get me wrong, i'm not looking at joining the mormon church.
but i still enjoy studying other faiths and different belief systems.
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ATT: WARNING
by EJ257 inplease be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.
this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.
at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.
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Big yawn
everything that is happening around the world at THIS moment
every moment was one point THIS moment.
his religion is completely correct on the context of the bible
On what level? The religion I left 22 years ago prior overlapping generation doctrine and growing up that generation of 1914 will never die?
it's always in my mind of the end being near
If is something like this stuck in your mind, it is time to see a shrink and get medicated. Every generation since the time of Apostles through that there were the last generation. Eventually Catholic church forbade doomsday beliefs in medieval times until they were brought up in the 19th century by crazy Northern American cults popular among pioneers.
Nature is even making a call, an insanely abornaml amount of earthquakes recorded daily by USGS.
Do you know that nature does not make any calls regarding earthquakes? Plate tectonics is vital process in recycling the Earth crust necessary for life on this planet. Earthquakes were also recorded on Mars... poor Martians.
Start to stock food
If WT would do it since 1878, I am certainly not interested on digesting food that is over 100 years old.
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Mormons vs. Jehovah's Witnesses
by Downtowner inforgive me if this has been covered before but i haven't seen anything about it recently.. in exploring the two faiths, mormons vs. jehovah's witnesses, which were both founded in the 1800s with the mormons being slightly a slightly older religion it seems mormons is a more attractive religion than jehovah's witnesses.
do not get me wrong, i'm not looking at joining the mormon church.
but i still enjoy studying other faiths and different belief systems.
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My experience with LDS is rather negative. I view them more negatively than me growing in WT. I had experienced deep racism from Mormons against my coworkers even in this age. They are also anti-Semitic. As American born religion, it is very ethnographic and narrow minded. -
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Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation
by kaik inmy mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.
so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.
nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.
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JWdaughter, I told my mom not to donate money to WT. She told me that she donates regularly and sometime on assembly she put $100 or more into the donation box. She seldom skips program in the KH where she has a circle of the same age women like her. However, when she is sick and can't walk after surgery until she is healed, she is not attending programs. Her husband is taking care of her right now. Any case, I can't enforce her not to donate, it is her money and I do not control her finances. What pisses me off that elder showed for donation instead asking if she needs help with anything. I know she does not need any help as she has family living within one hour from each other, and her husband is there for her. But I just do not grasp that he will ask her for money and starts to argue with her, and than goes to talk to my sister and tells her that mom has weak faith to Jah.
She told me that one of her friend donated her savings to KH and willed her house to WT after her death. She is one of the woman, single, never married and available after Armageddon. One of the elder recommended that my mom should sell the house and move into studio (and probably donate the rest). I see WT became much greedy and demands more money for its operations.
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So ... Russia and Nato at war? Should we be worried?
by Simon init seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
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Prologos, but this is not war on Russian territory and mean little to average population, because Syria is distant country. While Russia seek out revenge for terrorist bombing of its airplane in Sinai, it has not much to gain to occupy Syria. USA did not gain much with occupation of Iraq, and it was very costly military adventure. The war in Ukraine is far more strategic risk for Russia and much more close. It is in their backyard in territory which Russia consider a birthplace of its nation.
Recession in Russia is a big deal because it will undermine Putin legacy. One has to look what ideology Eastern European have after the fall of communism. I can tell you the primary ideology there from Czech Republic to Russia is to hoard as much of material possession because entire generations were deprived of consumer goods. This region is not Western Europe where Green party ideology and environmentalist movement brainwashed many under 40 that it is nice to be poor/materially challenged, have bicycle instead of car, and live in closet size apartment as it is necessary for the environment. If Russia for prolonged period of time cannot experience steady consumer growth, the ideology of monetary self-gratification will suffer. Cumulative years of negative economic performance will wear down the society. Furthermore, recession had already undermined modernization of Russian armed forces. During the Great Recession in USA, military spending suffered as well. So waging a war in the middle of economic crisis can only impoverish population further.
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Something nice, non-jw
by FadeToBlack ini was out with my 4 dogs last night around 10:30 under a bright moon.
it was frosty (-4 c).
i heard some noise in the field behind my house (my backyard is a national forest).
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I know only black adder is poisonous, but they are rare and and protected. I had seen them only twice in my life at the nature, first time with my dad who loved mountains, and second time at bible study mentioned early. I do not like spiders, I was bitten by one, which brought me into hospital. It was yellow sack spider, which is poisonous and its bites are extremely painful. In near Lower Austria, they have about 200 cases per year of this spider bite alone:
The biggest spider we had outside my grandma house were lycosa. It is considered the largest spider in Europe, but is harmless. Last summer I was visited my sister summer house, which is in riparian forest and this spider is there as well. My nephew wanted it to trap it as a pet. It is a size of small mice:
I can live without them. My brother-in-law was bitten by brown recluse spider and he was sick for long time as the wound got infected.
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So ... Russia and Nato at war? Should we be worried?
by Simon init seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
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Russia will not start war with NATO. Russia is much weaker than was USSR. 30 Years ago USSR was vast empire with alliance from Central Europe to China, and many 3rd world countries sympathetic to communist ideas. However, it does not mean than Russia bear is powerless. Putin will balance between idea of great Russia, respected power, and his own ability to sell the war to the nation. Not everyone in Russia is eager for war in distant Syria. However, Russia since the time of Tsars was great strategist by pitting various power houses and alliances against each other. The Great Game in Central Asia with UK is an excellent example.
During the war in Donbas last year, there were several good observations on Putin strategy:
- Divide NATO among each other (Poland and Baltic states vs Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary and Slovakia).
- Break USA hold upon NATO by supporting politicians sympathetic to Russia (Schroeder is considered German protege of Putin). Today it is closer cooperation with France. France and Russia had deep relationship and after 1917 Paris became destination for Russian emigres.
- Weaken democratic principles in the Western countries by supporting parties that are nationalists, anti-american, and ride on widespread dissatisfaction with establishment. In France it is Le Pen, in the Eastern Europe it is support of transformed communist parties. Russia is also influencing parties in Sweden and Finland which are critical of these two countries to ally with NATO.
One major issue Russia faces at this moment is recession. It is going on for a while and there is a little signs that it will get better. Some estimates put cumulative losses of Russian GDP to be 15% by 2017 which will be one of the deepest recession in Russia since 1992. There are no indication that oil prices will rise, so entire economic performance during Putin reign will be whipped out by crisis and inflation.
When it comes to Syria, I had mentioned that Russian involvement will change very little with bombing campaign without ground deployment. Asad will never recover to control entire Syria. His troops barely hold 20% of the territory. Additionally, Russia, France, USA are fighting ideology, not specific state entity, so any victory is very illusive for anyone.
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I have noted many threads and posts on political inclinations....
by The Rebel inwhich i think is great, since as witnesses we never displayed any political inclinations.. but whilst political alligence means we are taking on new values, we are once again subject to trusting what the leaders say, and subject to propaganda from the media.. personally i see the irony of this situation, and must confess to being very skeptical, about supporting any political party.
in fact i am glad as a witness i abstained from voting, because i believe history has shown the vote that would have shaped my conscience would have been misplaced.. anyway how convinced are you of your new political views?.
the rebel..
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kaik
I noticed here that many Americans are hard core GOP supporters, and will relentlessly attack you (it happens to me here all the time) to be ultra-liberal if I disagree with them. I am very much centrist, and I do see political parties as a joke. I am not a member of any party. In USA anyone can find its own party, in totalitarian regime, the party finds you.
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So ... Russia and Nato at war? Should we be worried?
by Simon init seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
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Russia does not have sufficient resources to threaten Turkey due ongoing recession, war in Ukraine, and international isolation. Capital is leaving Russia, and their reserve funds will be depleted by next summer with present rate of deterioration in economic condition. So Russia has to balance its involvement in Syria with uncertain outcome. I still do not think Russia has as much to maneuver, but it does not mean Turkey will not experience its revenge. The biggest gain Russia can achieve from Turkish humiliation is to undermine its ethnic balance by supporting Kurdish separatists. Russians are also top business and tourist partners of Turkey. Additionally, Putin can try put some NATO countries like France against Turkey. -
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Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation
by kaik inmy mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.
so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.
nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.
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JWDaugher, it is pointless to write anything because elder will deny it, and I was not there to back it up.
Makemeunbeliever, and avatar has do to with my mom how?
Lovesjehovah, so elder come out of the way to see my mom and ask her for donation just on his own initiative? Right!
Stuckinarut2, problem is that she does not want to see TATT. She is too old and it will kill her social life, and I am not sure if she would be denied an access to her grandchildren from my other siblings. I think she knows WT is lie, but in her age (she is 79), it really does not matter to her anymore.
Irish Dame, thanks, Hope all is good with your mom now. Nobody expected that my mom would pick infection in hospital and she allergic to most of antibiotics.
