Posts by kaik

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The Original Sin - Emperor’s New Suit

by learnaway in

introduction: most religions based on the bible, have been teaching paul’s propagated doctrine for thousands of years which claims that human beings are born with the original sin, inherited from adam, thereby redemption is required.

it is not enough to be described with a few lines of explanation that paul’s doctrine is false, because this examination goes against the faith of the redemption doctrine, which cultivated by tertullian, augustine, calvin; and gave a source of power and enormous wealth for the church for many millennia.

however, hopefully readers could grasp the undeniable truth regarding original sin and redemption..

kaik

The Hebrew Bible belongs to the Jews, who understand it very well, and do not believe in original Sin.

Exactly. Jews do not believe in original, Adamic sin. Life is created perfect, but it is a human inability to uphold laws to stay without sin. Sin is not inherited either; person is only responsible for his or her own sin. There is no redeemer from the sin, and nobody can invalidate anyone sins on someone else behalf. Original sin is Paul invention to make Jewish scripture obsolete and create a new beliefs where salvation through Christ is only one possible.

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How to find someone you lost contact with

by rebel8 in

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is there an app for that?

seriously, in this day and age, there has to be a way to find someone you lost contact with.

i know, facebook...but i'm having no luck there.

kaik

Also some people can be deceased. While there is possibility to search people by various Death Index record, etc, it will not always turn a result if person remarried and died in different state. Also in this age, people move outside their native countries, or retire abroad.

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I like the fact that XJW's are passionate about politics

by minimus in

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the fact is we could never talk about politics or of use toward political issues as witnesses now we can and we can disagree without being disagreeable .

kaik

Political discussions are always heated and everyone can look into French Revolution where disagreement was solved by guillotine. Robespierre said that even if person does not make any choice, he already did showed his or her political views. When I go to foreigner boards, the political discussions are far worse than on JWN.

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Memorial mixed emotions...

by Tornintwo in

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does anyone else feel 'pulled back in' at this time of year?.

i still consider myself to a believer, believe in god and jesus christ, on the whole i think he taught tolerance, love, acceptance and i think we can benefit from following his example.

i love ray franzs book in search of christian freedom.

kaik

I am still annoyed with conversation I had over the phone with the family last weekend. They just get too much excited but at the same time inflict guilt feeling that I am not there. They accept the WT dogma, and on memorial they just are observers instead of participants of the ritual. It never made sense to me even back then when I was in WT. I knew one elder (he is already DF) that he was partaking at home secretly with his family. JWs outside 144K are just observers, and do not really celebrates Jesus sacrifice.

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Memorial mixed emotions...

by Tornintwo in

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friends

does anyone else feel 'pulled back in' at this time of year?.

i still consider myself to a believer, believe in god and jesus christ, on the whole i think he taught tolerance, love, acceptance and i think we can benefit from following his example.

i love ray franzs book in search of christian freedom.

kaik

I get irritated by my family because they get hyped -up, and will try to inflict a guilt feeling that I was not there. I do not see a point why would anyone outside 144K to bother to go to memorial, even as JW. I remember back in the 1980's and 1990's that there were brothers and sisters, who had second memorial in the privacy and they partake because they thought that WT was excluding them from something that they should be part of it. Back then, I agreed with these people. Since I became involved with Judaism by association in marriage, I understand that memorial does not make a sense for Jewish faith. Jews (or at least the one I am married to) do not believe that anyone can redeem other person for his or her sins. Everyone is responsible for their own sins, and Jesus sacrifice just does not make sense and is not valid in their faith.

When it comes to Easter, I loved it. In many European countries, it is the second biggest holiday in the year after Xmas. In the Czech Republic it is an equivalent to Thanksgiving in overall atmosphere: entire families get together. The time of the year and the weather is always good to see relatives, because in winter, not everyone wants to travel, and in the summer, many people are vacationing. Easter associates with me one of the warmest memories, special food and baked cakes. JW memorial is far off from festivities that Easter is, and it is rather pitiful as the only holiday they celebrate.

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The official relationship between Jehovahs Witnessses and the Watchtower? I'm confused.

by Joliette in

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can anybody answer this for me?.

whenever i tell people i'm ex jehovahs witnesses, they always assume that i'm against the jehovahs witnesses, but i am more so against the watchtower then anything.people assume that i'm anti-jehovahs witness, but now that i've done more research i've realized that its the watchtower thats more harmful then the jehovahs witnesses, even though theres a lot of jehovahs witnesses i dont like, i'm not against jehovahs witnesses as a group.. can anyone explain this to me?.

kaik

The WT is a subset of JW. One cannot exist with the another. While the den mother/imperial aristocracy vs slaves view holds, it is rather a symbiotic relationship where one justifies the existence of another. WT cannot survive without millions of its followers, while JWs would not follow indoctrination if they did not had WT to sign up for. It is like distinguishing between communist Politburo and masses that were in communist party. Every member of the Politburo was a communist, like everyone in WT all they way to the top is a JW.

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Waves in Gravity detected, another lucky hit?

by prologos in

gravity waves sound like a special kind of sound, so is this another lucky hit in the otherwise discredited bible?

gen i: 3,6,9,"said" like in acoustics?

note the subject area, and be objective.

kaik

Bohm, not sure what you are trying to achieve by insulting me (you are not succeeding), but again, I know where the post is. I do know how to google my name, and I actually review it in the discussion forum within the other people who commented. I did not create the forum, nor I was the author news that published it. You should take your whining to that media outlet that published it back then in 2006.

And when it comes to the Nobel prize, I do no think much of it, when it was awarded to killers like Arafat and Gorbachev. Now go back to your favorite things on JWN, which is trolling. I told you that already under Paris discussion in November that you are troll. You were always troll and you always will remain a troll. This all you can be on JWN.

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Waves in Gravity detected, another lucky hit?

by prologos in

gravity waves sound like a special kind of sound, so is this another lucky hit in the otherwise discredited bible?

gen i: 3,6,9,"said" like in acoustics?

note the subject area, and be objective.

kaik

I am not sure who did not pay attention and what, and what I believe is irrelevant to this topic. I only said, we had in the school a discussion on the gravity waves back in 2006. There was a post where somewhere from the news where this observation was published. I only know the year, because the post is still there under under my name within the discussion forum.

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Why dont you go to the memorial?

by atomant in

l guess we all have our own reasons and thought it would give insight to others considering going to reconsider and not go.

kaik

Memorial for Jesus death in JW religion is a joke. Jesus did not say that only small pack of believers will partake. JWs if they do not belong to 144K do not have reason to celebrate Passover. They do not achieve salvation through Jesus sacrifice but through association with WT. As someone who does not believe in WT, I do not have reason to celebrate Jesus sacrifice with association with publishing house.

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Waves in Gravity detected, another lucky hit?

by prologos in

gravity waves sound like a special kind of sound, so is this another lucky hit in the otherwise discredited bible?

gen i: 3,6,9,"said" like in acoustics?

note the subject area, and be objective.

kaik

Bohm,

I do not want to argue with you, but I can certainly look up my name on the google to get the post, which I did, and that we as class back then had discussed that the first observation of the gravity wave. While the URL link from 2006 where this news came from is no more available, I certainly know my name and school I went to to locate 10 years old post. Any case, the wave gravity discussions are around for years. When they were first observed, I do not know, but in my Earth science class, we talked about it under the accredited curriculum.