My experience is exactly opposite. I have encountered far more extreme right-wing extremists on JWN than lefties. I am centrist. I support conservative and right leaning issues, but also I have some left-leaning opinions like healthcare and gay rights. And I do not have opinion for many issues that defines left/right boundary, because I do not care about it at all. My experience with political leaning of ex-JW crowd that once you disagree on some issue with them you became leftist. Exactly year ago there were nasty debates after mid-term election when some ogre with screenname "Junction" was verbally attacking me; and suddenly half dozen people I never exchanged any post, were all over against me for things I never mentioned, do not believe, nor I have cared. This thread eventually passed to Viv, and had to be locked down, not because of Viv, but because of GOP supporters. While I did not agree with some of the political opinions of Viv, she was civil, while Junction, and rest of the pack where vulgar, hostile, and outright nasty.
Posts by kaik
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34Do most ex JW's go politically left?
by Lightgrowsbrighter ini've found it interesting that- imho- most of the politically vocal ex-jw's at this website seem to lean left.
i'm personally pretty centered- right on some issues, left on others, but overall have a pretty cynical view of all political/religious leaders.
i find it somewhat ironic that people who leave such a dogmatic group like the witnesses become so politically dogmatic.
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Are single sisters happier?
by Esmeralda001 inthis question is for the ladies out there, but if you are a man and you'd like to share your thoughts on the following topic you are welcomed to do so.
given the wt society's view on women, did any of you ladies gave up on the idea of getting married "in the truth".
in such case, did you sometimes feel that you were missing out?
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Other than that, glad it's over!
Amen to that. I wish my family will see it as well. Problem with WT that it ignores mental and personal crisis and does not care if any of its member dies. When she died, nobody in my KH cared at all, like she did not existed. I know my mom was deeply wounded and she blamed herself that she was not there for her at that right moment. It hurt her and my mom was never the same JW as before. These two women were in KH all the time together. My mom loves pastel blue colors wears white pears on program. She was sitting next to her in red corals, and all the color of fire outfit. They were so opposite. I do not remember what she doing for a work, and do not recollect much of her in the 1980's. She dreamed to be married to elder, or wait till Armageddon. It was just behind corners, and nobody should get old waiting 30-40 years.
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Are single sisters happier?
by Esmeralda001 inthis question is for the ladies out there, but if you are a man and you'd like to share your thoughts on the following topic you are welcomed to do so.
given the wt society's view on women, did any of you ladies gave up on the idea of getting married "in the truth".
in such case, did you sometimes feel that you were missing out?
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LongHairGal, this woman died 1991 or early 1992. She jumped in front of the train at the end of the summer. I remember it, because it was still warm and she died in winter. She may have realized that no elder man was there out for her. When we were on assembly, she liked one particular, middle-aged British guy, and I translated for them. I even took picture for her of two of them. My mom said she may felt that her feelings were not returned at that assembly, but we may never known. She did not share this with my mom. She was just turning 60 and getting retired, so there was only prospect of loneliness in retirement. When she killed herself, she did not leave any message. However, everything she owned, she destroyed. The cop told us, she was doing this damage for several days, and it was planned. All her cloths were cut, all china was broken, pictures and upholstery cut off; she set a fire to her carpet and swallowed tons of pills for eternal sleep. We did not know she died until my mom was contacted by the city.
With the group of four women, two were JWs, her and my mom. The other two studied, and went to KH from tiem to time, but never got baptized. She was also the only one who never got married. To me, she may have had some secret crash on someone in the past the way she dressed: jewelry, nice manicure, bright red polish, tailored cloths, and always wore make up. She always wanted to look good. If she got a chance to get married, having children, she could be a grandmother. But instead she was saving herself for some to be worthy and married in "Truth".
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Are single sisters happier?
by Esmeralda001 inthis question is for the ladies out there, but if you are a man and you'd like to share your thoughts on the following topic you are welcomed to do so.
given the wt society's view on women, did any of you ladies gave up on the idea of getting married "in the truth".
in such case, did you sometimes feel that you were missing out?
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TheWonderOfYou & Digonesister. Only my mom knew her well. She was friend with her since 1950's, prior my mom got baptized as JW. My mom and her and two other women used to go for weekend to resort town for a spa treatment and relaxation. She knew my father well. She never married and my mom never met anyone from her family.
I know that except my mom, nobody liked her due her appearance. JW women in my KH were dressing gray colors, this is reason why mom called them mice. However, that woman loved bright colors. Always pink to red to mauve and orange/yellow. I would not say gypsy color, because that woman was not a gypsy. She was not extravagant either. But it was just her personality. She spent with us on assembly in Prague-Strahov in 1991 and she was all over one group of British JWs and very joyful. Several weeks later she had her suicide attempt. I recall seeing her prior that in the city, she just walked by me and later passed by my father without saying any word. Last time I saw her on wheelchair looking outside of the window; and later we find out that she died committing suicide. Also nobody claimed her body and the government was unable to trace any living relatives. Nobody from my KH went to visit her either, except our family.
What I know she dreamed good, religious man, probably elder, but all the good men would be available after Armageddon. I know my mom was very devastated and she blamed herself that she did not do enough to prevent it.
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Should Obama and coalition troops push ISSI'S out of Iraq??
by Witness 007 inwe are having weekly terror attacks.
you cant just keep carpet bombing as little ground has been won against issi's in one year.
they are making millions from oil and farming.
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Raqqa is unofficial capital of unofficial country of 12 to 15 millions of people with 25,000 foreigner fighters, and 100, 000 troops of local population. Even nuking Raqqa will not put the end of this state, because it lives in the heads of the Islamist fighters. One Raqqa is destroyed, they will overwhelm another area sympathetic to their ideas. And this can be anywhere from Mali to Iraq and from Libya to Yemen. -
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Are single sisters happier?
by Esmeralda001 inthis question is for the ladies out there, but if you are a man and you'd like to share your thoughts on the following topic you are welcomed to do so.
given the wt society's view on women, did any of you ladies gave up on the idea of getting married "in the truth".
in such case, did you sometimes feel that you were missing out?
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In my KH we had JW woman who was single, never married, and available after Armageddon. She was very nice woman, and good friend with my mom. Both of them will sit next to each other and travel together. We even were together in 1991 assembly in Strahov in Prague. She always dressed with bright colors, unlike other elderly, single women who my mom called a gray mice. She had pink nails, red hat, beret, yellow to orange skits. Eventually she had a personal crisis after Strahov assembly, which even my mom does not know why. What I know, she did not have family either. One day she decided to jump in front of train, which run through my city. This train is more or less single car lorry, something like tram. She did not die as the impact catapulted her out, but she was disfigured and lost a limb. I went to visit her, she was looking out of window from wheel chair and refused to talk to anyone. She just stared away. Couple months later, she destroyed everything she owned, cut all pieces of her clothing, upholstery on her furniture, smashed all her china, and set the place on fire, while took sedatives, and died. I often wonder why she went the way she did. She did not deserved to commit suicide at age 60 or so. We could not even bury her, and she was cremated on the city expenses and scattered as she did not have anyone to claim the body.
When it comes to marriage, St. Augustine said that marriage is for these, how are afraid to sleep alone in the darkness of the night. Some people are happy to be single, and some people wants to be married. Many have unhappy marriage, and some people have great marriage. There is no rule what makes things better.
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Legalized marijuana. It's coming to canada and I want to try it.
by hoser inas a good jw i never smoked a joint or nibbled on some brownies.
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In the Czech Republic, you are allowed to grow own plant with maximum five per personal use. Selling plant with THC is criminal and you will face a huge penalties + jail time. The government figured out that it is not worth to prosecute individual users and old ladies who grow it on its balconies. The biggest problem there are wholesalers who distribute it Germany and Poland. Nonetheless medical pot is allowed, and technical plant without THC is grown all over the country. It has widespread industrial use, you can buy pot pesto, butter, beer, vodka, and even ice cream in downtown of Prague just outside of St. Jill church. Austria has also grows extensively technical plant without THC and you can even stop at some of these farms in Lower Austria. You can even get lost in pot maze
http://www.expats.cz/prague/article/weekly-czech-news/czech-cannabis-labyrinth/The state police control the plants for industrial use to ensure that THC limit is not reached, and there been issues with industrial growers and the law enforcement for years. Alcohol causes much more damage to the society, so are prescription drugs, and crack. This is real issue which should LE and government to address.
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Should Obama and coalition troops push ISSI'S out of Iraq??
by Witness 007 inwe are having weekly terror attacks.
you cant just keep carpet bombing as little ground has been won against issi's in one year.
they are making millions from oil and farming.
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One issue people underestimate is the Islamic will to fight. USA thinks that it has technological superiority and people there wants to live like Americans. However, even in the Western states, the support for Sharia laws and ISIS like statehood is somewhere between 25% and 40% percent among Muslims. In the ME, the support is even higher. You can look how long 50 years of warfare looks in ME at one country: Israel!. With all its might, technological superiority, economic position, desire for survival, and intelligence, Israel has not been able to break a will of Palestinians to fight. Look on year after year of uprisings and constant warfare, and you can expect the same form Russian/American/Western Europe coalition. Nothing more than years after years, decade after decade of constant warfare. -
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Should Obama and coalition troops push ISSI'S out of Iraq??
by Witness 007 inwe are having weekly terror attacks.
you cant just keep carpet bombing as little ground has been won against issi's in one year.
they are making millions from oil and farming.
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VI, day or two I read, that in order for Russia to conquer ISIS, it will need to put 350,000 ground troops in Syria. This is a huge number, which Russia cannot afford. Asad controls only 1/5 of the country and he will never recover his state. ISIS control 12 million people and if the population would not stand behind this regime, it will not be that successful. It is illusion to think that Sunni Iraq and Syria will "liberate" their territory from ISIS with the help of foreigner. It will not work. Population there is dreaming of ancient Caliphate that will return and restore glory of long lost past. Even if Russian/West coalition conquers Raqqa, the capital of ISIS, the ideology will not disappear. ISIS is not the only war of the Islamist ideology, there is Yemen, Mali, Nigeria, Libya, and West/Russia does not have money, will, resources, and leadership to control them. The best the world can do is containment.
What you propose is grand coalition, which would backfire in Russia (the largest Muslim population in Europe, Moscow itself has 2 million Muslims), and Western Europe which face a possibility of internal war with Islamic refugees. Americans thinks that they have superiority and putting a huge hope for Trump to be elected and sent tens of thousands Americans to fight in ME and defeat ISIS, but again, there is nothing to really conquer. How you will deal with Islamic ideology that has a huge support among 1.2 billion Muslims from Africa to ME to Asia? Capture of ISIS territory will not address it.
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Should Obama and coalition troops push ISSI'S out of Iraq??
by Witness 007 inwe are having weekly terror attacks.
you cant just keep carpet bombing as little ground has been won against issi's in one year.
they are making millions from oil and farming.
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No ground troops. That is what ISIS wants.
Exactly. This strategy did not work for Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, and did not work for Soviets in Afghanistan. ISIS can entice men from Muslim countries all the time because it is war of ideology, not for specific national goal.