Wow Wow Wow
Angus Stewart - My choice for President of South Africa !
You have a captive organisation ....is it justified by todays morality ???
This is explosive stuff !
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
Wow Wow Wow
Angus Stewart - My choice for President of South Africa !
You have a captive organisation ....is it justified by todays morality ???
This is explosive stuff !
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
Yep - He is uncomfortable -
These are fascinating interchanges !
So - to the lurkers - IF WT is Gods only Channel on earth - then is this RC the working of Gods Spirit within the JW ORG at this time?
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
i posted a topic with personal contact information on it.
such stupidity and i do deeply apologise to the person and the commission.. it has been taken down thank fully.. this morning i came skulking out of my cave, and with trepidation started the computer and checked my emails.............. there was a lovely compassionate email from the staff at rc telling me not to be too upset at what i had done.
they said they understood and it was important that i not get too distressed at the error.. then they said they were thankful for all the support and gratitude being shown to them from various parties and other places.
"Worldly People" showed you compassion ??????? But......... but ....that's ....not possible !
Love your candor umbertoecho !!
I got the impression you too have been a victim ..right ?
It was the compassion of "Worldy People" toward my wife when she had breast - cancer that got her thinking deeper about things- and now she is "out"
unfortunately, part 1 will not be available until later, but i thought i give you the other parts anyway .
day six of the proceedings:.
part 2 has been uploaded and part 3,4 and (5?
"""So if we know that a brother or a sister has fallen into such wrongdoing, we should encourage that one to approach the elders and seek their help. (Jas. 5:13-15) If he or she does not do so within a reasonable period of time, though, we should report the wrongdoing." """
I understand the "we" to mean you and I - the R & F reporting it to the elders [not the police] if the perpetrator or guilty one does not approach them on their own. It could be knowledge of adultery / smoking etc etc [Any Serious sin as per WT definitions]
sparrowdown - On the button - that overly ...ever so humble .....not that I wish to offend your Honour tone got my Hemroids in a tizz I tell you !
Yet if any R & F member had phoned Service Dept prior to this ARC and taken up the issue of the following:
The Commissioner told Spinks that because they make a detailed examination and have their own internal process of dealing with abuse cases, they have therefore made themselves responsible for the need to report. Spinks confirmed that they think it is the individual's right but the Commissioner pointed out that the elders themselves have made a decision as to whether a person is guilty or not and therefore have this responsibility of knowing that they have identified a criminal
There are laws that deal with people who are hiding a criminal or are fully aware that there is a known criminal and they would clearly know if the abuser confessed.......................
..................You could have ended up in a JC for speaking against Gods channel/ Divisiveness / fomenting apostasy and a string of related "charges".
unfortunately, part 1 will not be available until later, but i thought i give you the other parts anyway .
day six of the proceedings:.
part 2 has been uploaded and part 3,4 and (5?
C0ntr013r - You are going to need Therapy after the ARC ....to get you off the addiction mate ! [Pssst - See you there ]
Thanks for the assistance btw !! Much valued!
i just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
Please take a time out to read Angus Stewart's CV - http://www.newchambers.com.au/barrister/angus-stewart/
He is a Rhodes Scholar
i have listened to segments of the hearing.. i am really impressed with the way the rc are well informed about jw procedure and the 'flock book'.. does anyone know how the rc got so clued up?
are they just that good at what they do?
(not saying they're not).. have 'mentally diseased apostates(tm)' been of use to the rc?.
I think PunkOfNice said it ....................This is the first time we are seeing Elders not performing on their own stage and they are totally out of depth here - They cant interrupt when they feel like it, falsely accuse when they feel like it etc and they are looking worse than stupid - "A string of Gormless Elders"
IN fact today deRooy could not even articulate and correctly quote the 2 witnesses Scripture - he had to look it up and then made this lame excuse that one would have to read the context first to which the Judge countered and put an end to that - after which came that trump card remark/question regarding whether the executing of awomen for adultery was to be taken literally seeing that the 2 witness scripture was !