https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
select aug 14..
Page 43 of the Transcript :
34 Q. Is it not the case that had Jesus been asked about
35 a case of sexual abuse, he may have referred back to this
36 part of Deuteronomy and said that it's not required to have
37 two witnesses?
38 A. I certainly would like to ask Jesus that, and I can't
39 at the moment, I hope to in the future. But that's
40 a hypothetical question which, if we had an answer, then we
41 could support what you said.
42
I'm will be Beamed up shortly !
i can't help thinking that there is something essentially wrong with gj's new description of the role of the gibbering biddies as guardians of the doctrines..
guardians immediately take on a role of authority, (dont ever forget who is in charge!
) guardians outside of the legal sense of adoptive parent has another resonance, it sounds like the inhuman bullies in some dystopian novel about oppressive religious politics.
i used to visit this site about ten years ago.
i haven't come her in a long time.
i have just recently started talking to a family member who is leaving the jws and i wanted to know what are the best sites available these days for finding out all the topics of information - failed prophecy, 1975, rutherford's drinking, russells tombstone - you know all of that kind of stuff.. back in the day there used to be a site run by a norwegian i think called kent.
This is a very good summary of GJ's testimony:
Katie Kitten is becoming essential viewing !
so i'm watching the interview with g-jack and he says that if a question comes up about doctrine, the gb have a meeting.
so my question is this, who questions anything and how do they submit a question?
he seems to painting some kind of "democracy" picture for the rc.. he also said that the 7 gb members can't possible know everything about doctrine...wtf???
GB decisions are made by majority vote and sometimes this doesn’t happen because 1 or 2 consciences won’t allow it, so they leave the matter do research and come back to the matter. Often they have been misguided in choices they have made for everyone, but everyone has to follow it .
What about the consciences of the flock who can’t abide by certain decisions they have made. So their consciences are more important than the flock and the flock must abide by their consciences?
DD - don't waste good Scotch on this Jimmy !
Lets have a laugh and a wee dram!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=okkhgZim5Ig#t=2
since geoffrey jackson's appearance before the australian royal commission on friday there has for some been an expressed feeling of anticlimax.
it is as though he was given too much latitude to preach, to claim ignorance and to skirt questions.
more to the point, as much as i myself thought i would never have expected to say this, gj actually came across as likeable and - don't throttle me please!
Hi Steve2 - I suppose we had certain expectations of a kinda thrust and execute - but if you see the comments elsewhere by umbertoecho regarding a response from the ARC received shortly after it ended and I think when you get to look at the Transcripts in depth a little later you will see the delusional man come very much to the fore -
Hang in there friend !
a rare moment in legal and theocratic history.
pauline david, barrister and legal counsel for [bcg], had the opportunity to question and cross-examine, geoffrey jackson of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses (a.k.a.
"faithful and discreet slave").never before has a woman had the privilege of challenging and questioning a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
i am just wondering if somebody { who has been following the royal commission in australia can highlight all of the sleight of hand , deceptions , half truths , theocratic warfare tactics , misleading statements , untruths , omissions to the truth ,lying , feigned support for the victim , while not reporting her plight to the relevant authorities , etc.,etc.,} , can list these in one document , that would be a testament to anybody how culpable jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts are , in not protecting their own members , or members of the general public by not reporting such abuse to the relevant authorities ,when they had a duty to do so by law , not pertaining to mandatory reporting, but protecting the larger community .. ( i wish i wasn`t so old and had greater computer skills.).
smiddy.
GB decisions are made by majority vote and sometimes this doesn’t happen because 1 or 2 consciences won’t allow it, so they leave the matter do research and come back to the matter. Often they have been misguided in choices they have made for everyone, but everyone has to follow it .
What about the consciences of the flock who can’t abide by certain decisions they have made. So their consciences are more important than the flock and the flock must abide by their consciences?
Justice McClellan asked GJ how will go about protecting the child, he has no clue how the org will go about protecting the child and instead of saying, I haven’t the foggiest idea, he keeps saying that they have the solution. That's what happens when you claim you are infallible. You can’t just say” I don’t know.
i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.
here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).
my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.
"in god's view, men and women are equal.
but even people who fly airplanes realize you can't fly an airplanes by committee there has to be a pilot and a co-pilot.
a woman is a co-worker, a complement, the bible refers to her as."-gj.
prologos !!!! ....................................lol Luv it
Mind you Mclelland's answer to the analogy ripped it open ! there are lady pilots !
