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  IMAGINE ! [Wishing you all the best on the journey forward ...]

  by AFRIKANMAN in

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  2. friends

  http://www.upworthy.com/the-message-behind-john-lennons-imagine-is-more-relevant-than-ever

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  AFRIKANMAN

  http://www.upworthy.com/the-message-behind-john-lennons-imagine-is-more-relevant-than-ever
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  The Watchtower is not invincible

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  despite claims to the contrary, there's no guarantee the watchtower will be around in a few decades time.

  and it seems to me there's ever mounting evidence that the opposite may well be true.

  but it's not just that recruitment is down and their defectors are up.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  Via Fictitious FB and GMail accounts I have just kept on feeding in WT iniquities to people - some have blocked the account and FB so I just keep moving on -

  However I can assure you that I will shortly be an expert in understanding the inner workings of human Cognitive dissonance - Wow it runs deep .......frightening .....!

  If you read the post from the Andersons / Reveal News on Splanes X-Splanation to the Portuguese on being wary of enema's of the State of JW - simple comments - They obviously are cocky enough to believe the R+F will take it in and believe it ........and I think many will just keep on believing !
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  Governing body member has Nervous breakdown due to Bethel pressure!!! Sad.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower life story of karl klien governing body was very sad.

  clearly shows the pressure to do more.

  baptized at 12 years old he became a teenage elder.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  We have and had family in Bethel and they tell us the place runs on Prozac / St Johns Wort and the like !

  Should get Cheech and Chong to assist them with some "meds" .....................hey man !
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  Governing body member has Nervous breakdown due to Bethel pressure!!! Sad.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower life story of karl klien governing body was very sad.

  clearly shows the pressure to do more.

  baptized at 12 years old he became a teenage elder.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  JFR's words were true ! He was the devil he-self !
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  Noah's ark

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those that believe in the flood story as genesis says, then they also are forced to accept a huge amount of evolution, way faster than any evolutionist would propose.. from a basic selection of "kinds", to the several millions of land species there are now, and in only about 4000 years.. not to mention the many types of birds that made it to remote islands, and then somehow lost their ability to fly... not even possessing wings( ex- dodo bird, moa).

  scientists agree this was a process that took eons of time.. i was thinking of this because we just had a public talk on noah.

  i sure couldn't make a fool of myself on that subject, going on how "factual" it all is..

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  AFRIKANMAN

  ""It has been estimated by some that the hundreds of thousands of species of animals today could be reduced to a comparatively few family “kinds”—the horse kind and the cow kind, to mention but two. The breeding boundaries according to “kind” established by Jehovah were not and could not be crossed"""

  And then the sum total is .......................we are not told who the Some are !!!

  Here we go again - divining quotes and force fitting puzzle pieces !
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  Could Wt afford to proselytise in China if they were allowed in.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just thinking today if china opened it doors to wt, and there was the surge of interest as was the the case with the european eastern block countries when communism 1st fell.

  what would be wt reaction toward it.

  could wt even afford to proselytise in china.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  They have sent missionaries in under the guise of being English teachers - they are instructed to find jobs in English teaching institutions etc and to mingle with the local Chinese people - This guise also assists them to avoid visa issues and the like - So they are definitely there under false pretenses - but its................Theocraptric Warfare ....so its ok !
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  my 2 cents

  by SloppyMcFloppy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  all religion is flawed because its led by man.

  jw is not bad religon if it changed some of its doctrines and thoughts.

  if it didnt "shun" members and "worldly people.

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  Man is flawed and thus thinks he needs Religion .....................perhaps ?
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  WT claims to have completed "Peak Construction Phase of New World Headquarters"

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://web.archive.org/web/20151210004420/http://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/jw-headquarters-peak-construction/.

  http://imgur.com/a/dbsqt.

  are they just moving the goal posts now that 2016 is almost upon us?.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  breakfast of champions - spot on there ! And as for that Guard Tower ....lookout thingamy ...like a prison compound - totally Hilda I'm afraid - I could just plutz !!!
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  Finally heard a Dub defend overlapping generations

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.

  i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.

  but that all ended recently.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  Socrateswannabe - Did you tactfully or otherwise ask her to articulate it for your "foggy" brain ? Cos I think that would have blown it away.
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  WTBTS Submissions to Royal Commission on abuse: The response document in FULL

  by JWchange in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it is not obvious if someone has already put the responses and excuses to the findings of the royal commission, by watchtower on this forum somewhere, sorry if it is already posted.

  click on the link below, and scroll down to 'submissions' near bottom of page and you can download the full document.

  if this link doesn't work.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  We are never and will never be in error !

  For Example :

  11.61 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F57: [ie Angus Stewart]

  F57 It is the policy and practice of the Jehovah’s Witness organisation in Australia to not report allegations of child sexual abuse to the police or other authorities unless required by law to do so.

  There is no such policy and practice of Jehovah’s Witnesses: see the reasons given in paragraphs 9.313 to 9.318.

  11.70 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F66:

  F66 The documented practice of the Jehovah’s Witness organisation of not reporting child sexual abuse to the authorities undermines the efficacy of the working with children check system, a system to which the organisation says it subscribes and with which it says it complies.

  
  

  • For the reasons given in paragraph 9.355, this suggested finding is too broadly stated and should not be made in the terms expressed.

  F67 The practices and procedures of the Jehovah’s Witness organisation for the prevention of child sexual abuse, and in particular for the management of the risk of an abuser reoffending, do not take account of the actual risk of an offender reoffending and accordingly place children in the organisation at significant risk of sexual abuse.

  For the reasons in paragraphs 9.358 to 9.362, this suggested finding ought to be disregarded.

  11.73 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F69:

  F69 Members of the Jehovah’s Witness organisation who no longer want to be subject to the organisation’s rules and discipline have no alternative than to leave the organisation which requires that they disassociate from it.

  For the reasons provided in paragraphs 9.367 to 9.369, the finding should read:

  A Jehovah’s Witness who no longer wants to be subject to the organisation’s rules and discipline may simply stop associating with the congregation without formally disassociating from the faith. !!!

  11.81 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F72:

  F72 Dr Applewhite’s report contains a number of factual errors with regard to her documenting of the relevant practices and procedures of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  The suggested finding should read as follows, based on the reasons given in paragraphs 9.398 to 9.399:

  Dr Applewhite’s report contains a small number of inconsequential factual errors with regard to her documenting of the relevant practices and procedures of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  11.82 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F73:

  F73 Dr Applewhite’s report is therefore rejected.

  For the reasons provided in paragraphs 9.400 to 9.401, the finding should read:

  Dr Applewhite’s report is therefore accepted.

  11.83 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F74:

  F74 Dr Applewhite accepted the following components to current standards of best practice in relation to raising and responding to allegations of child sexual abuse within religious organisations, namely that religious organisations should have:

  a) a process for reporting allegations of child sexual abuse which is survivor focussed and designed to ensure that the child or adult survivor feels able to come forward and be comfortable in reporting the allegation

  b) a process for reporting allegations of child sexual abuse that does not require a survivor to confront the alleged perpetrator of their abuse or be in the same room as the alleged perpetrator without support

  c) a system for preventing perpetrators of child sexual abuse from being put back in a position of trust with children

  d) an ability to take child‐safe action in order to remove children from imminent danger, or a relationship with other authorities that have that ability, and

  e) strong and cooperative relationships with child protection authorities and with criminal justice authorities

  These suggested findings should not be made since they do not relate to the policies and practices of Jehovah’s Witnesses, as explained in paragraphs 9.403 to 9.410.

  11.84 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F75:

  F75 The opinion expressed by Dr Applewhite in oral evidence that requiring a survivor of child sexual abuse to present her testimony before elders and her abuser would not meet the relevant standard is accepted.

  For the reasons outlined in paragraphs 9.411 to 9.413, this suggested finding should not be made since it has no direct relevance to the current policies and practices of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  Even though she was the JW Expert Wetnose !

  Obtuse / bold / Presumptious / Self-Assuming /haughty / Lovers of money ......... / not open to any agreement / having a form of Godly devotion ................

  I HATE THEM EVEN MORE NOW - GOD HELP ANY DUB WHO GETS IN MY FACE FROM NOW ON ............