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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

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  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Thanks Stirred and Goingthruthemotions for the updates.

  I talked to a couple of elders today from other halls and found out how things went at their meeting and how they were going to proceed with this new arrangement.

  It sounds like the elders are approaching this very cautiously and looking to report a conservative number to the branch regardless of what the members/publishers report on their slips of paper.

  I think that's funny. The branch is looking for an increase in revenue, but it sounds like they may not get as much as they are expecting.

  One of the elders said their body is just going to take the average of what they were sending last year to the kingdom hall fund and send that.

  They know they can't count on the publishers to meet their pledges. LOL

  It's interesting. When it comes to money, people tend to be able to think for themselves a little more easily.

  Doctrine...not so much.

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Sooooo.....the slip thing happened....

  And.....It was a complete mess.

  The brother read the letter, got confused about the contribution boxes, passed out the slips, was unclear about what to write on the slip, and then gave no instruction whatsoever about what to do with the slip.

  It was a train wreck.

  What's weird is ..I just was not expecting that. I was expecting to be pissed.

  (It wasnt even clear enough to get pissed about) Clarification will be needed in coming meetings.

  So oddly anticlimactic. The relatively smart people were confused. The average dub didn't have a chance to understand it.

  Anyway, that's the update so far...

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Stirred... It will be ok. They probably will not make people turn them in that night.

  Even still, its guilt-tripped obligatory bull crap. I do agree with you that you should go for the part. I think on some level we need to see it happen with our own eyes.

  Just let it come to you and handle it as it comes. Many of us are waking up to this madness at the same time. Me included.

  At least we have a place to vent. Thank you Simon.

  Let us know how it goes for you and I will post updates too. Good luck.

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Stirred....Well the paper slip thing is supposed to be anonymous so even if they give you the paper, just tell them you will pray about it.

  Then drop it in the contribution box or time box or whatever at a later date...(don't know what the official instructions will be at your hall).

  Whatever you do...don't give it to an elder personally - even if that is the instructions.

  If you are instructed to give it to your group overseer or whatever then that will make it a bit more complicated. You will have to get a couple other people to go along with you and drop it in the box so you are not the only one.

  Just some thoughts. Sad what they are doing to people.

  -TE
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  JW.ORG ABOUT TO WIN THE LOTTERY!

  by The Searcher in

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  after the reading out of the letter about the "new donation arrangement" this week, there is going to be a flood of money pouring into the org's coffers!.

  not only from the bank accounts of the sheep, but soon after from the bulk of money in kingdom hall accounts worldwide!.

  question: has anyone calculated how much cash could be grabbed from the 113,823 congregations on earth?.

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  what searcher said...totally agree.

  frankiespeakin - they will just sit on the pile of cash and ride it to a grinding halt screaming "PERSECUTION!" the whole while.

  This GB is set for the rest of their lives. No problem.

  -TE
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  What's Your Scenario For The Watchtower Corporation's Business Future? Will They Survive Much Longer In This Information Age?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  the internet a marvel of modern science, mass communication, information at your finger tips is transforming peoples lives.

  but alas the whole thing took the governing body by surprise as they continued to pin their hopes on childishly magical and wishful thinking bible interpetations.. the train has left the station and the governing body are just now comming to terms with it(the internet), while they still demonize it for its freeing power, and plethora of information that doesn't fit with their narrow world view they must still navigate a path that includes or give some recognition to this information source now becomming availible to all all over the world.. how will the watchtower survive all this and still be directed by a bunch of delusional old and odd geezers is beyound me to comprehend.

  what say you?.

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  I think the growth will slow and then reverse.

  I see the collective IQ dropping all along the way.

  They will just spin it into a new storyline - one that is not about growth but increasingly about being the "chosen few."
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Yeah I hear ya -Stirred- about making a comment during the bible highlights.

  You might could even say that it reminds you of the point Paul made at 2 cor 9:7 where he said

  "Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."

  Good times....Not.

  -TE
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  I Plan To Attend A Meeting and I Have a Question

  by Space Madness in

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  besides the bible, songbook, kingdom ministry, and draw close to jehovah book, are there any other books i need in order to attend the tuesday/wensday/thursday night meeting.

  do they still use a book for the theocratic ministry school and is it the same one from 7+ years ago?.

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  such as setting 14 "witnessing informally in a waiting room" (invariable the doctors), - Splash

  More specifically the setting should be:

  "Waiting in doctor's office to have my anti-depressant prescription renewed" LOL

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  The slips of paper get passed out tonight !!!

  I will post updates on this thread.
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  MTS & Gilead: Can we talk about how much of a FAILURE these 2 schools were/are?

  by Black Man in

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  i know quite a few from both of these schools who basically crashed and burned once they got into their assignments.

  graduates of these schools would be thrown into foreign territorities or remote areas without a good visible means of support and would get emotionally, mentally, financially burned out.

  post your experiences or of those you know that went to these pitiful excuses for educational institutions..

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  What always amazed me was how much respect and adoration was suddenly given to a brother that went to MTS.

  I mean a misfit brother could turn into a spiritual superhero after just a few weeks of this course.

  I don't remember how long the course was around here, but it was less than 90 days.

  You would think they went off to JW college for 6 or 8 years and received some kind of degree in JW Theology/Administration.

  There is a brother around here that went to MTS like 10+ years ago. It still is touted on his resume like its a PHD.

  That's how uneducated the dubs are. A 90 day course is called a "school" and is the equivalent of a PHD in their world!

  Hilarious !!

  -TE