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  Breaking News! Azerbaijan to ban Watchtower Magazines

  by raymond frantz in

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  police and other security services have been handed a list of banned books that they will seek to remove and destroy in raids planned for the future in azerbaijan.the list mostly contains muslim texts and books such as those by dr. said nursi a muslim theologian.

  i addition , this list contains .... .

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  TTATTelder

  Who cares if they cry persecution. They do that anyway. Give them something to cry about. - Data Dog

  Amen

  -TE
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  Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...

  by TTATTelder in

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  dear brothers:.

  we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.

  dom halls and assembly halls.. .

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  DD,

  What you are referring to (earlier) is what many on this forum have been calling a scam.

  Cong's pay into this slush fund and then when they get money it is a loan that has to be repaid.

  Also consider the KH Fund box was still open the whole time catching some extra money in addition to the loan payment that also goes to the slush fund.

  I think they even used to charge a small interest rate on the loan then they stopped doing that (probably for legal reasons).

  Island Man,

  That's some crazy stuff, but I like it.

  -TE
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  Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...

  by TTATTelder in

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  dear brothers:.

  we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.

  dom halls and assembly halls.. .

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  TTATTelder

  I think what Oneeyedjoe is saying is more in line with what the WBTS wants. They want to create a sense of urgency (projects, projects, projects!!!!) and get congregations to send them more money. The wiping away of the debt is just on paper. Believe me the branch knows who owes them money. Or maybe a better way of saying it is - they know where their investment dollars have been spent. They even expect the cong's with loan payments to send that amount or more in this new arrangement (as has been stated). They were not shy about stating that expectation in black and white in the original letter.

  What I get from what DD is saying is that some congregations are apparently choosing to send just the old payment in. Well that would be a net loss to the branch because the cong was sending the old payment in before plus whatever the publishers put in the KH Fund box.

  THEY DO NOT WANT LESS MONEY COMING IN THAN BEFORE !!

  I think that is one of the things that will be addressed in the "further direction" that "will soon be sent to the bodies of elders".

  I suppose they thought the original plan of passing out slips of paper would guilt-trip/socially-obligate the dubs into forking out more money, but they are running into serious problems getting the middle management (elders) to even understand the plan much less carry it out.

  They shouldn't be surprised, though. God directed these middle managers - through his "mouthpiece" - to not get an education. So many of them can't follow directions that require any thought on their part.

  As a side note - and I know the point has been made before too - isn't it bizarre that the headquarters is run primarily by men with college degrees from "Satan's" world. Lawyers and Accountants are calling the shots up there and directing an army of uneducated drones. Funny to think about.

  Anyway, I think we will see some more specific instructions in the coming letters that will curtail KH's sending in less money than they were before.

  This latest additional letter in the OP is dated 5/2.

  Its 5/9 as of this writing and no new letters yet. That's a long wait already for further instructions when this new program is supposed to be all sewed up in each congregation by the end of the month.

  They must be scrambling!

  They have painted themselves into a corner. How can they make sure they increase revenue and still come out looking like Santa Claus for the "less fortunate".

  I also think they have underestimated the entitlement mentality here in the United States. Everybody here thinks they are the "less fortunate" and let's face it - everybody wants something for nothing - even "God's Chosen People".

  -TE
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  Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
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  dear brothers:.

  we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.

  dom halls and assembly halls.. .

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  Obviously we have ourselves a series of letters at this point.

  How many will it take to get through this lovely maze they have created?

  I have a funny feeling it will take more than just one more letter. We will see at least two more letters and it will provide much entertainment.

  The question is - what will the next letter say? Oh the possibilities....

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

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  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Yeah I see some back door way of tithing on the horizon.

  They will "encourage" automatic drafts from the accounts of publishers.

  The elders will get reports of these drafts. Of course the reports will be just for "accounting purposes" and so everything is handled "orderly and by arrangement."

  The real world purpose will be to use it as another gauge of how "spiritual" a person is.

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

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  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  stuckinarut2 -

  You got to be freaking kidding me. What a sleazeball illustration. Bringing up sick children as a parallel.

  How obviously manipulative.

  -TE
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  OMG!! Worldly people ARE so greedy and hateful!! I am leaving JWN!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  check out this greed and lack of financial transparency by this worldy a-hole!!

  no wonder the gb keep the finances confidential!

  hurry and repent!

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  TTATTelder

  Wow, I bet he's demonized too! LOL

  That's pretty cool stuff.

  The whole lack-of- transparency thing is a real thorn in my side. It screams corruption.

  -TE
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  Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...

  by TTATTelder in

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  dear brothers:.

  we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.

  dom halls and assembly halls.. .

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  TTATTelder

  We obviously have no idea what we're doing! So please pretend you don't notice. That would make Jehovah sad. - Oubliette

  That's pretty effin funny too!

  -TE
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  Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. beliefs

  dear brothers:.

  we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.

  dom halls and assembly halls.. .

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  TTATTelder

  Well this letter definitely makes things more foggy not less.

  -TE
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  88JM,

  Thanks for the report. It seems that the congregation secretaries are the ones usually reading this letter.

  Ours also is a bad communicator.

  That introduction was a guilty conscience talking I'm sure. He was trying to convince himself....Nervously. LOL

  Really strange watching this all unfold.

  -TE