Posts by TTATTelder

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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

by ToesUp in

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a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.

TTATTelder

The new elder appointing arrangement isn't as different as the WT wants people to think. WT wants to appear to be distancing itself from the appointment process to reduce liability, but the truth is - it is business as usual. The body has to send in recommendations a month before the CO visit with written explanations. The CO sends this to the branch and has a pow-wow with his service desk about who he has the green light on and who he doesn't.

CO gets to make final call but only from those preselected by the branch. The CO is still just a puppet.

So if a bunch of elders were removed, the branch was in on it.

-TE

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Just out of curiosity, how many elders (current & ex) do we have here?

by mrquik in

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me.

TTATTelder

Current elder unfortunately. Just too damn trapped to leave yet. Taking it slow mainly for the wife. It's hard to nudge your spouse out while still going to indoctrination sessions. I am making progress though. I'll be damned if I let those bastards steal my mate.

-TE

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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

who is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?

ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!

the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.

TTATTelder

Same ole lawyering - P.R. - Spin - BS that you see by all multi-biilion dollar corporations and politicians.

They make "admissions" to say they did - to create sound bites.

For every scrubbed-up, carefully-worded, half-baked admission of anything wrong there are literally thousands upon thousands of "listen to us or God will kill you" statements. It's laughable when you consider the contradiction. You can probably find them in the same magazine. It's deceit of raw evil proportions.

They will always make these printed statements in a vacuum. They will not allow questions, interviews, or requests for further clarification. And we know they do not allow disagreement to begin with.

If they are willing to say they alone represent the voice of almighty God on earth and allow innocent believers to die believing them, they will certainly have the balls to make up a convenient definition of what false prophecy is and then say they do not meet the definition. That's child's play in comparison.

-TE

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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

by Hidden-Window in

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as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

what about you?.

TTATTelder

10 - all day long.

Started with low level stuff on youtube ended up listening to jwstruggle judicial meeting - then jwfacts, jwsurvey, and here (maybe not in that order).

I even read COC as a pdf online! The internet is lethal to the WT. It will never be the same. Truth wins. Real Truth.

-TE

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Year 3: Personal Experiences

by Londo111 in

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http://youtu.be/nnnabt9x5lm?list=plynx0om_bmgdobkrzev2tax1jzdquagy8.

this is my third year since i signed up on jwn and i wanted to do something a bit different--a slight unmasking of sorts and greet everyone face to face.

even with the help of a few notes, this is rambling, raw, and by no means the best personal experience video out there.

TTATTelder

I enjoyed the vid guy. Seemed quite sincere. Thanks for that. Therapeutic to hear other people's stories.

Nice to know we're not fighting this alone.

-TE

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No mention of 100 years of kingdom rule at zone meeting

by kneehighmiah in

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i expected the streaming of such a large meeting to focus on 100 years of kingdom rule.

not a single mention.

instead more drivel about insignificant things like yoga pants.

TTATTelder

I thought it was oddly absent as well. All that hype about 100 years and then nothing.....

The way they moved on so abruptly should tell you something. It was never anything they actually had any emotion about. It was a big smokescreen and now they are done with it for the most part.

Enough celebrating the imaginary anniversary....back to the carrot/stick routine!

-TE

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My Yoke is Kindly and My load is Light! What did this scripture mean to you as a JW?

by BU2B in

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jesus said that "my yoke is kindly and my load is light" what did this scripture mean to you when you were mentally in?

did you feel the jw load was kindly and light?

if not, what was the point in him uttering those words?

TTATTelder

That scripture is just used for manipulation in JW land.

The load is light - not because it actually is - but because Jesus said so. Here is the script:

....

"What do you mean you are frustrated, tired, and depressed from a bull crap life of organizational servitude?

Jesus said right here in scripture that his yoke is kindly and his load is light.

So apparently you aren't _____ enough. Apparently you aren't doing enough _____.

(Fill in the blanks with whatever guilt trip you prefer from the vast menu available from the Faithful Slave.)"

-TE

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Is the WTS effectively 'pimping out' sisters?

by Simon in

i can't remember the topic with the discussion about the talk where they suggested that sisters should only consider ministerial servants as potential marriage partners but think about the implications more.. are they trying to use the potential affections of sisters to enourage brothers to do more and work harder?.

isn't this a form of 'pimping out' the sisters by limiting their attention to the people contributing to them?.

it seems to cross a line to me but i guess it's not vastly different to "only marry another jw".. what do you think?.

TTATTelder

Somebody needs to tell these horny wannabe-MS's that JW born-in girls (because of years of guilt/fear indoctrination) have serious guilt issues when it comes to sex.

It's fools gold.

The GB guides the girl to a MS's bed. Ok... Seems good so far... The problem is the GB never leave the room!

They will not be crawling in bed with just their new wife. All seven of the governing body members will be laying there too.

-TE

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Is the Society trying to self sabotage?

by truthseeker in

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i'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?

are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.

i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .

TTATTelder

Totally agree BU2B...

-TE

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Is the Society trying to self sabotage?

by truthseeker in

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i'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?

are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.

i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .

TTATTelder

I think the "mainstreaming" is more marketing and PR than anything else.

It's a veneer to lure people in and keep people, that are in, confused or dazzled by the "shiny" objects.

What we saw from AMIII this weekend is a glimpse at what this organization is at its core. Behind the shiny veneer this organization is abusive and tyrannical.

It will and does eat its own young. Comments in recent and past watchtowers alluding to killing apostates, the constant threats of death at Armageddon to any who aren't completely in line, the fanning of the class envy flames, etc. etc. These notions all tell quite a darker tale than will ever be seen in a Caleb cartoon.

The GB live in a delusional bubble of imagined authority over all humans on earth. They are entitlted to your devotion. "God says so" according to them. They will eventually weed out any who do not worship them and regularly feed the beast (organization). They want a leaner organization of uber-followers. They do not want murmurers and fence sitters.

In the meantime they will continue to cut overhead and seek additional avenues of revenue. In other words run their money-making business.

-TE