Hell yeah I get tired of it. I had to conduct the damn wt study sunday. Hard to stomach the complete and utter BS.
Just say you're an effing real estate conglomerate and be done with it. We don't need any god damn ark references.
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Did you grow weary in "well doing"?
by compound complex in"and let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
" holman christian standard bible; galations 6:9.. i just now remembered an old wt article about the things that discourage us about our imperfect selves.
one such disappointment in ourselves is that we know we should continue doing good unto others, but we're simply worn out.
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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?
by Hidden-Window inas we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.
i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.
what about you?.
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Damn straight Old Goat!
That was the first crack I saw. I finally said to myself - if this was a company I would blame the management. I then blamed the GB for the power tripped assholes in the congregations. I went to the internet then and started searching.
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New forum 'parousia' is upon us! (software version)
by Simon inthe time has nearly come to switch over to the new forum software.
of course it's not completely finished yet (and never will be) but i think it's good enough to go live with and probably already better than the current one.
i'll give you a quick overview of what to expect and post more detail about the changeover process later.. cloud platform.
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Cool ... Look forward to it. Thanks Simon.
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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwho is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?
ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!
the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.
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adcms - good stuff - complete con-artist assholes
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How do you overcome this JW excuse?
by EdenOne induring one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.
eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?
how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".
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Witnesses love the mentally lazy position of putting complete trust in the magic show.
And they're good little boys and girls for trusting it too!
There are a lot of unexplained, missing pieces in the JW doctrine-creation process. The GB and Jehovah (so they say) and I guess Jesus (if they remember to invite him) slip behind a curtain together and "Presto!" come out with new doctrines out of thin air. It's a whole miraculous, hocus-pocus thing.
Everybody claps and says "Wow!" and never has to use their brain. If you question it (like interupting a magic show to point out slight-of-hand) you are just spoiling the party.
They will passionately defend it untill they are tired of you and kick you out of the show.
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What's sad is that the WT higher-ups take full advantage of this childish level of consciousness in the followers. Now using it to expand their real estate empire. Unforgivable.
Like I've said before - if there is a judgement day - I don't want to be standing next to the "Governing Body" or any of their cronies!
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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation
by ToesUp ina close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.
visit.
this occurred 3 months ago.
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The new elder appointing arrangement isn't as different as the WT wants people to think. WT wants to appear to be distancing itself from the appointment process to reduce liability, but the truth is - it is business as usual. The body has to send in recommendations a month before the CO visit with written explanations. The CO sends this to the branch and has a pow-wow with his service desk about who he has the green light on and who he doesn't.
CO gets to make final call but only from those preselected by the branch. The CO is still just a puppet.
So if a bunch of elders were removed, the branch was in on it.
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Current elder unfortunately. Just too damn trapped to leave yet. Taking it slow mainly for the wife. It's hard to nudge your spouse out while still going to indoctrination sessions. I am making progress though. I'll be damned if I let those bastards steal my mate.
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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwho is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?
ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!
the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.
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Same ole lawyering - P.R. - Spin - BS that you see by all multi-biilion dollar corporations and politicians.
They make "admissions" to say they did - to create sound bites.
For every scrubbed-up, carefully-worded, half-baked admission of anything wrong there are literally thousands upon thousands of "listen to us or God will kill you" statements. It's laughable when you consider the contradiction. You can probably find them in the same magazine. It's deceit of raw evil proportions.
They will always make these printed statements in a vacuum. They will not allow questions, interviews, or requests for further clarification. And we know they do not allow disagreement to begin with.
If they are willing to say they alone represent the voice of almighty God on earth and allow innocent believers to die believing them, they will certainly have the balls to make up a convenient definition of what false prophecy is and then say they do not meet the definition. That's child's play in comparison.
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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?
by Hidden-Window inas we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.
i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.
what about you?.
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10 - all day long.
Started with low level stuff on youtube ended up listening to jwstruggle judicial meeting - then jwfacts, jwsurvey, and here (maybe not in that order).
I even read COC as a pdf online! The internet is lethal to the WT. It will never be the same. Truth wins. Real Truth.
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Year 3: Personal Experiences
by Londo111 inhttp://youtu.be/nnnabt9x5lm?list=plynx0om_bmgdobkrzev2tax1jzdquagy8.
this is my third year since i signed up on jwn and i wanted to do something a bit different--a slight unmasking of sorts and greet everyone face to face.
even with the help of a few notes, this is rambling, raw, and by no means the best personal experience video out there.
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