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  More Young Indoctrination

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).

  these kids are really young!

  maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.

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  TTATTelder

  Yeah at our hall it was a 5 year old that did the demonstration.

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  I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.

  they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .

  our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.

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  As far as "growth" goes, I look forward to seeing the 2015 numbers. After the flash-in-the-pan that 2014 was with its 100 year anniversary/embarrassment, I expect to see plateauing numbers if not decline in coming years.

  -TE
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  Alternative 10 Commandments - Commandment #10

  by TTATTelder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i stumbled on this wikipedia page giving alternative 10 commandments:.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/alternatives_to_the_ten_commandments.

  this was #10 on a list by bertrand russell (british philosopher 1872-1970).

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  TTATTelder

  I stumbled on this wikipedia page giving Alternative 10 commandments:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternatives_to_the_Ten_Commandments

  This was #10 on a list by Bertrand Russell (British philosopher 1872-1970)

  10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness.

  It made me think of Jehovah's "Happified People". Lol.

  I am trying to let go of anger toward the religion and see some humor in it (not easy). The truth is there will always be people skipping around in a fool's paradise.

  Here are all 10 on his list; I think you will find them interesting considering our JW background:

  1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
  2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.
  3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
  4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavour to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
  5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.
  6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.
  7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.
  8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.
  9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
  10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness.

  -TE
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  Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for some background, i am still in.

  still an elder.

  very much awake.

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  So to give a quick update... the wife watched it. She basically said she understands where I'm coming from with my complaints about the money focus and deceitful tactics, but...... She went straight to "well if there are problems then jehovah will reveal them in time... There are many examples of problems in Jehovah's organization in the past blah blah"

  very frustrating - it's like she could see my points to a certain extent but then the indoctrination kicks in.

  -TE
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  Mark Sanderson Background and Warwick

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mark sanderson - here is some insight on his background taken from this site:.

  http://e-watchman.com/congratulations-mark/.

  congratulations, mark!.

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  TTATTelder

  I got a good laugh out of that one Watchtower-Free.

  -TE
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  Mark Sanderson Background and Warwick

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mark sanderson - here is some insight on his background taken from this site:.

  http://e-watchman.com/congratulations-mark/.

  congratulations, mark!.

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  TTATTelder

  What does intelligent look like?

  Not like that.

  -TE
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  Jehovah's Witnesses---From Walking Tall To Living In Shame

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember the days when jws were proud of their religion, they walked tall and carried their big stick, their bibles, proudly.

  now, it's embarrassing for a witness to admit their faith to others.

  the average witness can't explain their beliefs, as they have changed so many times.

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  Yeah it's easy to see now that it was a publishing company that sold books because of its anti-religous-establishment stance. They were basically the religious shock-jocks of back-in-the-day. They caught a lot of eyeballs and sucked in the disenfranchised. It grew a cult following that actually turned into a cult.

  Today they are lost in space. The GB are managing a cult built before their time in power. The GB are just cult followers themselves that inherited the company.

  They look foolish, but I agree, the new shiny things will keep the masses distracted.

  -TE
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  Watchtower Society now PROMOTES using Social Media / Networks?

  by FusionTheism in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you seen this?.

  http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/whiteboard-animations/social-network-smart/#?insight.

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  TTATTelder

  About 10 years ago, we had a local-needs-of-the-circuit talk that said all social network accounts needed to be shut down. That was the "world" and "satan".

  Oh how times change.

  -TE
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  Jehovah's Witnesses---From Walking Tall To Living In Shame

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember the days when jws were proud of their religion, they walked tall and carried their big stick, their bibles, proudly.

  now, it's embarrassing for a witness to admit their faith to others.

  the average witness can't explain their beliefs, as they have changed so many times.

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  TTATTelder

  Yeah before there was a feeling of having things figured out. Now it's "sit down and shut up". If you ask a JW now what they believe, they better check the latest Watchtower before responding.

  Maybe they should say "I'll get back with you after the next Annual Meeting." Lol

  Something wrong with that picture. I mean imagine having to ask some authority what YOU believe. Can it really be called a belief if it was assigned to you by someone else?

  -TE
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  Mark Sanderson Background and Warwick

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mark sanderson - here is some insight on his background taken from this site:.

  http://e-watchman.com/congratulations-mark/.

  congratulations, mark!.

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  TTATTelder

  I guess these gb members are dyed-in-the-wool organization groupies. Can you imagine the lack of perspective of someone that lived their entire life saying "how high" every time the organization said "jump". And they call apostate's mentally diseased?

  Frankly he doesn't look intelligent. I think we all can agree on that. He looks dopey.

  -TE