Good Post.
I forget about group 2 people. They do exist out there though. They need to come on sites like this to move to group 3 or 4 to get past the guilt.
TTATTelder
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Categories of Former Jehovah's Witnesses
by neverendingjourney ini was never disfellowshipped, but it's been about 10 years since i was an active jw.
i've made an occasional meeting or half-day at an assembly here or there, strictly at the behest of family (maybe once a year), but i'm completely disconnected.
more importantly, mentally i'm 100% free.. we all have a tendency to project our views and beliefs onto others, and tending to believe that other former jws share our views is no different.
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JW MECCA!!!! ANY THOUGHTS?!?!
by DATA-DOG inso...the wife wants to go to new york.
she wants to visit the holy land and see the new bible museum.
( sorry, trying not to vomit..) do you have any idea what it costs to fly to ny and get a room?
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1) GB T-Shirts
2) GB autographed silver bibles
3) New Light scented candles
4) Stuffed Caleb Dolls (by the way I have a friend with a two year old that just toured NY a couple of weeks ago and they sent us a pic of their kid hugging a life size cut-out of Caleb - No Joke!)
5) Locks of GB hair (some more rare than others)
6) Posters of Caleb getting his tail whooped for playing with Sparlock
7) Commerative Rutherford Scotch
8) Pioneer Tiaras
9) "Kiss Me I'm an Elder" Pins
10) Novelty Duct Tape for Sister's Mouths
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR injanuary 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
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TTATTelder
Now the "dwindling number of annointed" can't be verified in the stats published by the Society. We can never know how many are part of the "overlapper class" as Data Dog put it.
They can now say the number is dwindling regardless of how many "crazies" bite and sip each year.
So they have delivered their one-two punch:
1) They demoted the annointed last year by saying that they are just domestics in an attempt to reduce the appeal of partaking.
2) They have explained away the significance of the total number by introducing this "overlapper" class as the only partakers that matter as far as the last day's prophecy is concerned.
Makes you think that punch one didn't work. It will be interesting to see the memorial numbers for 2013. I guess we won't see those numbers until they release the 2014 yearbook.
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They are really begging for money again..
by XBEHERE insorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.
lol.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.
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TTATTelder
JV,
I will say this. If that scenario you described played out in our hall, I would be quite upset. It would "expose" me to some degree. For them to say "ask the congregation" for more funds is absurd. The congregation already gave the money. They no doubt see the flock as an endless well of funds.
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They are really begging for money again..
by XBEHERE insorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.
lol.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.
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TTATTelder
There is also something in place now that I'm not sure if many people know about.
They encourage congregations to keep any excess funds on deposit with the branch. They call it "Funds On Deposit". Our congregation has several thousand dollars on deposit with the branch. We only keep about 2-3k in our checking account.
The arrangement is to let them hold and use the money until if/when we need it in the future. So basically it is a no-interest loan.
That makes you wonder how many congregations have how many thousands "On Deposit" with the branches around the world?
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They are really begging for money again..
by XBEHERE insorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.
lol.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.
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TTATTelder
I have often wondered similiarly to what Russell said in that 1879 WT posted by Frankiespeakin -
If Jehovah is backing the organization, then certainly he could easily provide funds for it. I mean it's almighty God we are talking about here. Even if they did insist on some sort of tithing or giving for the principal of it, it certainly shouldn't have to be sent to NY. The funds should just be used around the KH or used to help the truly needy.
NY should be flush with money from Jehovah's blessing.
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They are really begging for money again..
by XBEHERE insorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.
lol.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.
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TTATTelder
We got the letter read last night also.
I don't think it's a "financial trouble" thing as much as it's that they have more going out than coming in from donations right now.
You know how some rich people act like they are 'sinking financially' if they aren't seeing their bank account increase each month?
They obviously didn't get the influx of cash from the NNWT that they were hoping for at the annual meeting.
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR injanuary 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
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DD - "Don't forget that we don't even know if Sanderson is part of the " overlapper " class or not. He is definitely part of the " dunlapper " class, as his belly has dun-lapped over his belt. Sorry hungry JW kids, the GB don't do charity work..."
Hilarious BTW↑
I'm pretty sure that Sanderson is too young to be in the "overlapper" class, unless we are now saying that persons can partake in their teens.
(They won't need to sell that for a few decades)
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR injanuary 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
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TTATTelder
Pixel,
Cutting it off at 2 generations - Creates Urgency. Doomsday groups have to have urgency to keep membership up.
Lets use 90 year lifespans and 25 year olds getting annointed. If you are 25 in 1914 and get annointed and live to be 90, that would put you dead in 1979.
If another overlapping person gets annointed in 1979 at 25, then he is now 59. Not exactly a "doomsday is tomorrow" equation, but it makes it more urgent than the end could be 180 years (90 + 90) from 1914.
Doomsday in 2094 isn't going to scare anybody into submission.
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR injanuary 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
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TTATTelder
They just give the flock what they want to hear. Basically this can be summed up by the following two-word thoughts:
"We Good" "They Bad" "End Soon" (said in a caveman voice lol)
Just tickle the ears. Buy a few more months/years. Yada yada.
I will say - it appears quite obvious that they are extremely sensitive and defensive over this 100 year anniversary.