I would say around age 8 it started to become an issue. I would be invited to the skating rink or a pool party. Couldn't go of course. If i pushed too hard it would turn into - "Why are you so involved with these worldly school friends?"
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when you had to start dumping your worldy friends ??.
just curious that's all.
not being a witness ( ubm here ) i think everyone has known a jw kid and at a certain age " my mommy won't let me play with you ".
I would say around age 8 it started to become an issue. I would be invited to the skating rink or a pool party. Couldn't go of course. If i pushed too hard it would turn into - "Why are you so involved with these worldly school friends?"
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i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.
to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.
if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.
Faye,
Yes I would say it has made it colder. The closeness isn't there and cliques are more common. The field service groups are a pitiful alternative. They only meet for a few minutes once a week, and there are always those that can't meet or have to work on sat. etc.
Oh yeah - and no "Treat Night"! That at least was something remotely normal and enjoyable.
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the borg might not fall and disappear, but it's sure heading into the oblivion.
they predicted their future in last week's study.. last week during the cong book study they mentioned the following:.
15. to illustrate: a supertanker or a freight train might be awesome in terms of size and power.
They can keep it going a long, long time IMO. The buy-in is astonishing to this new building program. The sheep just line up to do whatever they are told. They think they are doing "God's Work".
Even the ones that can see the profit angle just write it off as "supporting the work". No thought is given to the fact that an organization truly backed by God would not have to engage in such money making endeavors. They should be flush with cash from miraculous sources.
Oh well.... this is the result of indoctrinating people week-in-and-week-out. They will continue to indoctrinate and they will continue to control the minds of this small religious group.
Growth is another thing all together, though. I think growth is already pitiful and the trend will continue south, but they can survive on flat growth or small decreases for decades.
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i wrote a little satirical piece on how the future could look like for jw on my blog.
hope you enjoy it :).
for the first time in its history, the yearbook 2021 of jehovahs witnesses does not contain reports from different countries.
That was funny. I enjoyed it.
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they just put up a link to watch a replay of the "new kh meeting", here some screenshots.. .
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When you guys say it looks like a bank, do you mean like a Blood Bank?
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as the title of the thread says, i woke up this morning realizing more than ever that we should, each and every one of us, live for today and what we can accomplish today, rather than constantly looking toward the future.. i'm not implying we shouldn't make plans, plans are healthy and advisable, especially if you have healthy commitments.. but i realized the reason why nothing in my life ever seems to get done, is because i put things off, and look ahead 10 years down the line, then a few days later realize how much work needs to be put into that said task, then i don't do anything.
and so the cycle seems to repeat itself.. what i think i'm trying to say is that worthwhile endeavors that have a reward at the end, but take many years to get there, need to be challenged one day at a time.
i now understand that to get to where we want to be 10 years down the line, we need to focus on today and the hard work that needs to be out into a task one day at a time.
Interesting thread. I woke up the other morning and thought "Life is about maintenance and preparation" - this is something we weren't taught as JW's. The end was coming, so long-term maintenance (relationships, property, skills, knowledge) wasn't necessary nor was any long term preparation (education, planning, etc).
Basically if you want your life to make any real progress, you better be giving serious thought to both areas. Sad that that is some sort of a revelation as a middle aged man.
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left completely unsaid at the meeting: who is going to be the owner of the property & building when all of these new khs are built?
in the current arrangement, in most cases, a local trust is set up to hold ownership.
of course, the most likely answer is "the watchtower (or whatever shell corporations they set up) will own the land & building".
Yeah, the higher ups went in ready to convince the other members of the committee to "vote" commercial. It was made plain what was expected and then a prayer was made for show (assuming the story isn't completely fabricated.)
The chairman would have continued the debate until the others conceded regardless. It's always "look at what Jehovah did" after the fact.
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check out the song about the trolley at the end of this month's dubcast.. http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201502.
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My god that was painful! It is surreal to watch this crap. Could these people be worse cornballs? They think they are Disney, Apple, Mormons, and Scientology wrapped into one. What they are is wannabe's.
And might I add - yet another pinky ring. Gotta love these GB members and their humble jewelry.
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1. the meeting notes (which seem to be genuine, several sources now) for the ldc roll out talk about the need for 500, yes, 500 new halls.. 2. they are not interested in what property is available, but instead what is 'optimal', and are training couples to search for 'optimal' property.. 3. if the buildings did not have a sign that said jw .org (i refuse to give them a free link) and kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, you could not tell it from a small bank or office building, just check the pictures.. .
this makes me think that a) they either need to build and sell commercial property very quickly, or they just want to build and sell commercial property very quickly.. .
think about this: to build a kingdom hall (church), you need a variance, whether commercial or residential.. i predict they will put these in primarily commercial locations, ie, 'optimal' locations.. .
Yeah they will misquote enough old testament scriptures to convince the volunteers to build like God told them to. They will make a bundle selling off the old halls and start selling a few of the new ones in a few years. They can do this for decades.
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today's wt study (nov 15, 2014 page 4, par 4.. the governing body in jerusalem sent the apostles peter and john to these samaritan converts, and they laid their hands on them, and they began to receive holy spirit.
(acts 8:5, 6, 14-17) .
there are multiple references to acts 15 whereby "the apostles and older men" were the governing body.. i have never noticed this applied to "the apostles" only in acts 8:14 before.. is this another new item to reinforce the concept of the governing body?.
I think they pushed the notion of a 1st century GB more this wt study than ever before. It's bold and telling of who they are and what their agenda is. Fear mongering, insisting on God-given authority, all the while planning very ungodly business maneuverings aka real estate empire building.
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