Posts by Aroq

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What's the view by most Christians of the OT?

by jws in

i know the jws believe that since jesus came, the mosaic law is null and void.. i notice many other christians seem to keep quoting the old testament.

there's even videos on the web with idiots screaming "don't take my 10 commandments" when a statue was being taken down.

even though i doubt these guys know the real 10 commandments in ex 34 (that were on the tablets), not the ones in ex 20 and would be hard pressed to tell you when was the last time they celebrated the festival of weeks or of unleavened bread.. i mean how can they scream about keeping the 10 commandment statues yet wear clothes with 2 types of fabrics?.

Aroq

I personally do not think the 10 commandments are null and void. What I do believe is that the ten commandments were not something anyone then nor now could live up to. It is a measure that shows us that we cannot achieve them totally. It is to point out our flaws, I believe it was then also. We have to realize that with out God we cannot achieve perfection. Perfection against the ten commandments is impossible for us without the blood of Jesus. If you break one of the ten you break them all- James 2:10. Jesus added a little more meaning to the ten commandments when He said " it is written do not commit adultery, but I say to you if you lust after a woman you have committed adultery in your heart." Matt 5:28, as well as others. It is only by Jesus can we achieve anything,

Matthew 22:6 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and [o]foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

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The Divine Name in the NT: Some Reflections

by Let go of fear in

i've been fascinated with this topic for some time now, almost to the point of obsession.

after researching the issue for several years, i have come to a conclusion/theory that i would love to receive some feedback on.

this theory of mine is one that will be somewhat unsettling to both those who believe the divine name was used in the original nt scripts as well as those who believe it wasn't.

Aroq

I stand corrected. The time frame when God's name stopped being pronounced was, according to :The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1901, Volume 11, page 353

"SIMEON THE JUST (): High priest. He is identical either with Simeon I. (310-291 or 300-271 b.c.), son of Onias I., and grandson of Jaddua, or with Simeon II. (219-199 b.c.), son of Onias II... After Simeon's death men ceased to utter the tetragrammaton aloud (Yoma 30b; Tosef Sotah. xiii.)"

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The Divine Name in the NT: Some Reflections

by Let go of fear in

i've been fascinated with this topic for some time now, almost to the point of obsession.

after researching the issue for several years, i have come to a conclusion/theory that i would love to receive some feedback on.

this theory of mine is one that will be somewhat unsettling to both those who believe the divine name was used in the original nt scripts as well as those who believe it wasn't.

Aroq

It is very interesting that God's name was not spoken of by any Jew other than the Levi's, and even then it was only in the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippur. I believe it was after the time of worshiping the golden calf when this practice came into play. From then on it was unheard of and blasphemous to be spoken out in public. How could Jesus and the early disciples, speak God's name and it not be mentioned in the Bible that the Pharisees would want to kill them for it? There is plenty of accounts where the Pharisees wanted to Kill Jesus and the disciples, but not for speaking God's name. No mention of even a hush-hush, or squabble about it. If this were so important for God to have everyone know and use His name, not only would He have preserved it within scripture, but it would have been made fact through Jesus.

None of this is is made known in the New Testament. Would the Creator of the universe need a group of men in Brooklyn to restore it in the New Testament? That is a slap in the face to God, making Him unable to do what these men did. That is really pompous of them to rewrite the Bible, and I am sure they are aware of what God has said about adding or removing from the Bible. I just don't think they care.

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Do Kingdom Hall congregations communicate with each other?

by Faithful Witness in

when asked, my mom denies that they do.... do local congregations pass along gossip or reports on householders in the area?

specifically, i am wondering if they might report on (unbaptized) family members that live in other towns?.

since the abrupt ending of my bs with miss k, i have not heard from the jw's at all.

Aroq

oops, it must have missed the first part of my reply

I hear exactly what you are saying Clambake, I am in the same boat. My wife and her family are JW's but they won't "preach" to me. The are fine going door to door to speak with strangers , but not their own family? I know why, partly because their tricks won't work on me and that I would ask the tough questions like the one above.

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Do Kingdom Hall congregations communicate with each other?

by Faithful Witness in

when asked, my mom denies that they do.... do local congregations pass along gossip or reports on householders in the area?

specifically, i am wondering if they might report on (unbaptized) family members that live in other towns?.

since the abrupt ending of my bs with miss k, i have not heard from the jw's at all.

Aroq

Clambake,

" show me in the Bible where it states you need to report to anyone about your time in service?" Matthew 23:1-6;13 especially verses 4&5, explains the opposite.

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This Way to Glory, Kids

by berrygerry in

sorry to be a bit macabre, but this blows.. this way to glory and privileges, aka "this way to the showers.".

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https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/proof-of-the-nazi-gas-chambers-given-at-the-nuremberg-imt-on-nov-29-1945/.

Aroq

At that age its just parent pleasing.

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If this isn't the truth, then what is our hope?

by Gigi2121 in

i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.

i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.

Aroq

Our only hope is found in Jesus. That is the only hope. He will redeem us, He will be our strength, we just have to trust and have faith in Jesus. We know the world is not going to save us. We know that we are not capable of sustaining the world. I believe the Bible is God's word, and it says to put our faith in Jesus. That is our only hope.

Galatians 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

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oops, Elders taking from the cookie jar.

by Aroq in

some decided to get theirs before the gb did.

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http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/spain-14-elders-due-to-be-sentenced-for-170-million-fraud.

Aroq

Some decided to get theirs before the GB did.

http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/spain-14-elders-due-to-be-sentenced-for-170-million-fraud

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How do the JW's get around this scripture??

by Crazyguy in

hebrews 9:27new international version (niv).

27 just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, .

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Aroq

R. Jerome Harris, can you please show where in the Bible it says this " removed from God's memory. If one is not in God's memory, that person does not exist, not even as a dead person."
If what you say is true:
"The Lake of Fire (Second Death) is a symbol of nonexistence."
If this is only a symbol, then how can the devil, the beast and the false prophet be tormented day and night forever and ever? If they do not exist, as you say, then what torment is there for them? They would not even be aware of their lack of wrong doings.
Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
"The sin we commit when we are fully knowledgeable knowing good and bad is what is called the "unforgivable sin" or "the sin that cannot be forgiven."
Please back this claim with scripture
"Any bad act anyone commits today will be forgiven because WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING."
So what you are saying is that the likes of Hitler and these crazy people shooting everyone get the same prize at the end of their life??
"Christ can no longer ask the Father in our behalf in those future days,"
But this is not what scripture says. Hebrews 7:24&25 say Jesus is able to save forever those who draw near to God.
Hebrews 7:24 but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. 25 Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them."

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Explaining away the increase in anointed

by lurkernomore in

so i was just informed by my wife that her grandmother (who's also out) has been told by a 'sister' from her old hall that during their most recent circuit visit the co said something along the lines of:.

isn't it faith strengthening that the number of anointed is falling in relation to the increase in publishers?

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Aroq

What would happen if a group of people came to the memorial, I mean like 25 people, and partook. Isn't there only a small amount passed around? what would they do if it was gone? Taken by the 25 or 30 or whatever it took? would the whole thing come to a screeching halt in order to refill? I've never been to the memorial so I don't know.