Since we are talking about hypocrisy and you mentioned blood:
if JW's are allowed to accept fractions of blood, who donated the blood to gather the fractions from?
Posts by Aroq
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23The Circuit Overseer Visit
by garyneal inlast week, the circuit overseer came to visit my wifes congregation and as usual their patterns change somewhat during this week.
from my perspective, the meetings are held on tuesday and thursday instead of the normal wednesday night during this week and they are more eager to go out in field service.
sunday came and my wife wanted us to attend the meeting.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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Aroq
"You could have easily drawn on Bible only examples of times when God granted humans and angels his powers to do many things ie Resurrections, miracle cures, controlling weather etc."
designs, you have answered your own question with an answer you wanted to hear.
"Aroq- Can you see that people making Jesus into God was superfluous just by the Bible's examples alone."
People do not make Jesus who He is. Think about this for a moment. Who is Jesus to add to YHWH's commandments? Is this not superseeding YHWH?
examples:
John 13:34 " 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "
Matthew 5: 21 “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘ You shall not commit murder ’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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Aroq
I dodged nothing designs. I spoke to your evidence and told you why I do not accept it as scripture.
The lack of authority on your evidence makes it commentary, and commentary is the perspective of the one who writes it.
My answer was "God can and does according to His will, as described in the Bible." Does this limit God to just what is written in the Bible? No, it is just that is what we have to go by.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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Aroq
You have referenced a non-Biblical text, 11Q13 is written in Hebrew however not considered a Biblical manuscript. This puts it in the catagory of comentary for me. While it may contain names or figures that are found in the Bible, it is not considered part of the Hebrew Bible by the Rabbi's and scholars.
In other words, it does not sway me away from the Bible and what the Bible speaks of. God can and does according to His will, as described in the Bible. I'm not trying to be blunt about it, but I believe that the Bible is the only inspired word of God and that is what I must rely upon.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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Aroq
designs,
some of it, but the Dead Sea Scrolls are a two part group. One of that being Biblical and one not. While there are plenty of religious material out there, it is the Bible that is the inspired word of God, the rest is comentary.
The Qumran Caves Scrolls contain significant religious literature. They consist of two types: “biblical” manuscripts—books found in today’s Hebrew Bible, and “non-biblical” manuscripts—other religious writings circulating during the Second Temple era, often related to the texts now in the Hebrew Bible. Of this second category, some are considered “sectarian” in nature, since they appear to describe the religious beliefs and practices of a specific religious community. http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/learn-about-the-scrolls/introduction
Israel's God was the God of gods, meaning no equal as to being the supreme. Some of the writings state that these "gods" worshiped the God of Israel, this can be the limited understanding of "angels" at the time. While YHWH is called God, no other "god" of these terms were called YHWH.
My statement still stands based upon my knowledge of the Dead Sea Scrolls. If you have further proof to dispute my statement, please provide so that I can read up and understand where you are comming from.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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Aroq
The reason why a "lessor god" theory is important is because God is one, and if you add a "lessor god" who is also worshiped, then you have polytheism. Polytheism is against God's word. Worship has and is being given to Jesus, if He is not God then you have a problem.
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Aroq
"1-- Is the hope you have dependant upon being one of Jehovahs Witnesses?" -Brainfloss
"1--yes. Unless Jehovah tells me otherwise (unlikely)." - a watcher
conclusion:
"Is it your belief that salvation comes exclusively through association with Jehovah's Witnesses" - Brainfloss
Is this not putting the ORG in the place of Jesus?
Has no JW read Psalms 146:3?
" Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom
there is no salvation."
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Evacuate Earth, Anyone see it on the history station?
by jam inpossible scenarios for evacuating the plant in the event.
of a worldwide disaster.
a ship that holds 250000, who will.
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Aroq
this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29
Heaven's Gate, that was their plan but they didn't wait until the Earth was destroyed.
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Memorial to cease?
by Aroq ini heard something about the memorial to cease soon.
not anything to do with jesus returning but rather that the number of folks partaking is increasing and the gb can't explain it since it should be decreasing or staying the same.. has anyone heard of this?
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Aroq
how is it impossible? I'm asking here because there are some here who have a little more insight/inside scoop.
I heard it rom an apostate website! hahahahhaha
I'm not making claims, I just want to know if anyone else has heard it.
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Memorial to cease?
by Aroq ini heard something about the memorial to cease soon.
not anything to do with jesus returning but rather that the number of folks partaking is increasing and the gb can't explain it since it should be decreasing or staying the same.. has anyone heard of this?
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Aroq
I heard something about the memorial to cease soon. Not anything to do with Jesus returning but rather that the number of folks partaking is increasing and the GB can't explain it since it should be decreasing or staying the same.
Has anyone heard of this?