Does this song resonate with anyone? It does me, No curse words.
Posts by Aroq
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4Please listen to this song
by Aroq indoes this song resonate with anyone?
it does me, no curse words.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zonn0pxguc.
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Nonbelieving mates
by road to nowhere ina couple of my wife's friends are married to non witnesses.
they say jehovah must have special plans for them.
and that it is a special exception not destruction, alas, they are not attractive so my special idea about polygamy won't cut it.
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Aroq
"The other side of that is, why would a worldly person marry a jw?"
Well, I can say one instance.......they never professed to be one, never acted like one and only after it was too late did they state it.
Of course, that is not the majority of instances and it does display character, or lack there of. I get the lack of single male jw's , but why set yourself up for failure at the start.
"many of those women believe that their husbands can be saved at the last moment."
yes, but the reality of it is probably not as you have already stated the lack of quality jw men.
I know of a family in which the Mother has driven off her husband as well as those of her daughters, all ended in divorce except one. That one, the daughter isn't practicing
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Nonbelieving mates
by road to nowhere ina couple of my wife's friends are married to non witnesses.
they say jehovah must have special plans for them.
and that it is a special exception not destruction, alas, they are not attractive so my special idea about polygamy won't cut it.
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Aroq
my question is....why do they do it? why marry a non-jw in the first place?
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Russian gunman raised in JW family
by Alex Bogdanov inthe link bellow is sort of ok. i could not find a decent article in english language about this, but russian media is exploding.
2 days ago a teenager killed 19 people and injured dozens and committed suicide.
he was raised in a jw family.
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Aroq
here is a link than mentions his mother's involvement with jws.
Yes, Finkelstein, I agree. I do however believe that there is mental abuse among children raised this way, even if it is not directly stated he had problems within the org.
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Growing Up Strange (even for a JW)
by GizmoSnicket ini've been meaning to join an online ex-jw community for quite some time, and finally have made the effort to do so.
i was raised in a small/mid size city in the northeast united states.
i am currently 27 years old, just about five years fully out of the organization (after about two years of "fading" away).
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Aroq
" I no longer needed to justify my actions to anyone in my city, my state or even in Brooklyn NY. I owed no one anything in that sense, so sending a letter seemed redundant."
This is the most important part of waking up, in my opinion. It demonstrates your cognitive ability to see the org for what it is and to step away from the box you were put in. Spreading your wings of sorts. Kuddos to you and keep up the good work.
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Just asked JW wife to quit
by rathernotsay inso i wont get into why i asked my jw wife to leave... theres another thread for that lol... but more out of pure curiosity i asked her just now... "in order to save this marriage would you leave the jws?
", it was a snap call no, like not even a second to pause and think about it, which kinda took me back a bit, followed by a angry "why would you ask me that now?
" (shes going out witnessing with my kids and her friends).
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Aroq
"One of the three grounds for separation is "spiritual endangerment". I've seen the "spiritual endangerment" card played, in some cases, encouraged by the elders."
Oh yes indeed. Had that thrown into my marriage by mom in law. Less then a year later, wife "found a way" to exit the marriage.
She cheated, with the excuse that I made her do it.
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Jehovah’s Witness Examiner—have you ever heard of it?
by minimus ini found it on facebook.
evidently, it’s from watchtower and shows baptisms and the brotherhood..
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Aroq
I love the similarities in the names! It means that some WILL stumble upon the Watchtower Examination youtube.
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It saddens me to know that marriages break up because of religion and the blame, whose fault it is ?
by smiddy3 ina jehovah`s witness couple who have been married for many years and some with children of various ages and have been serving in their congregation meeting attendance, fs and bible studies with their children for many years .. and then one of them begins to have doubts about what they are being taught and what they actually are supposed to believe now that some changes have been made with nu-lite.. the doubts grow and then the the use of the internet to investigate further some of the claims of the gb/wt religion .. with the wealth of information available on the www it now becomes impossible to continue to be an active member of the jehovah`s witness religion without being an utter hypocrite .
you no longer believe them anymore that they alone are gods chosen people in this day.. however your spouse does not see things the way you do not at all and after many months of arguments bickering threats the ultimatum is something like if you don`t believe what i believe that you have left jehovah we can`t live together anymore ,i want a divorce unless you come to your senses.. who is the one here breaking up the marriage ?.
isn`t it in the majority of cases the jw who ends the marriage ?
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Aroq
in my marriage, it was me the non-jw who divorced her. Well it happened to be because of adultery. I'm not real sure that any of her cong even found out about why she got divorced. I'm sure it was all blamed on me anyway.
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Why isn't Lazarus my next-door neighbor?
by return of parakeet inafter looking through doug mason's "ransom" thread, i noticed a little discrepancy between dub doctrine and the bible; i.e.
lazarus.. if the wages of sin is death, lazarus paid the wages in full by dying, and when resurrected by jesus, he should then have been a "perfect" man.
after all, he paid his wages for his imperfection -- he died.
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Aroq
I'm going to ask this at the next cart I see. Great observation!
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Who did new testament writers think Jesus was ?
by Steel ini have been reading this book called " the two powers in heaven " .. the readers digest version is basically there was a first century belief of kind of a dual god system in the old testament.
god is invisible and yet he appears at the " word of the lord " or " the angel of the lord ".
basically any time god was visible and dealing with humans in a touchable , see able manner , it was though to be christ.
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Aroq
" there was a belief that Jesus lead the Israelis out of Egypt." - Steel
here is the scripture that references this:
1 Cor 10:1 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers,[a] that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.5 Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown[b] in the wilderness.
6 Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.”8 We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 9 We must not put Christ[c] to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer."
The Jews were well familiar with the concept of an angel acting as an agent of God, or of an agent speaking as if they were God. They never thought for a moment that the agent was God, even when the agent spoke as if they were God. - fukitol
Right! Even when Jesus pretty much said it. They rather try and kill that person before they believed it. But that was the Jews, not the apostles. John thought so, as did Peter, Paul, Matthew, etc.