I think my mom would have had trouble with this. I know there was a faint desperation in her as she got old. She and my grandmother came into the "truth" in the early 1950s because my uncle and grandfather had died and they wanted to see them again in "paradise" and also had great fear of death for themselves. There have got to be people who are in who are desperately trying to hold on.
Posts by Emma
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385NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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Emma
"I love the line He evidently meant?!? Why are you putting words and exagerated convoluted meaning into what Jesus said? "
Amen. This is lukewarm swill; when will the members get sick of swallowing?
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If the Watchtower truly collapsed, how would you deal with your JW relatives?
by nicolaou inimagine the best case scenario.
the watchtower society implodes from within even making final printed admissions that it is voluntarily dismantling it's mission and legally dissolving the corporations.
oh happy day!
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Emma
What Zoiks and Carpediem said.
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Directory
by Outaservice inhaving been out of the organization for 20 years now and having visited/attended a few churches since then, i've noticed that most have a church directory listing the regular attenders, members or not.. this is handy in trying to learn about various ones in the church, and in the event you want to send them a card, invite them over for a meal, and or a host of other reasons.. i always wondered why directories never existed for various jw congregations?
are they afraid of mass mailings of jw's that leave?
cannot the 'truth' stand up concerning everything they teach?
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Emma
Why are they so paranoid?
Because if the end comes you don't want the list falling into the wrong hands!
And, you might also want to use it for something social; that's not allowed.
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Changing WT wording
by KingAgag inin the recent thread about 'millions now living may/will never die', purplesofa said that the wts changed wording on watchtowers between magazine and bound volume.
i'd be interested to see some examples please!
this could be very useful to help someone i know see they are fallible.
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Emma
Thanks Blondie. If we could only find a way to get our "still in" families to read this. When I stopped attending meetings, my sister's greatest fear was that I'd read "apostate" literature. For her that was worse than adultery or anything else. She would be the one with her hands over her ears so as not to hear what might be the truth.
What are they so afraid of? Why do they think they'll be so easily misled?
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Emma
Me. Sugar cookies, oatmeal-cherry-walnut, chocolate chip, already made; tonight, molasses. My daughter will visit and make another four or five varieties that she gives as gifts.
What about you?
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Share Your Favorite Aphorisms
by Farkel ini'm a great fan of aphorisms.
zen has some of the classic ones.
the moral consequences of doing whatever you do is that you will be the sort of person who did that.. "it's best to ride the horse in the direction it's going.".
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Emma
Live and learn; die and forget it all.
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Does anyone find it too painful to read the WTS publications?
by dissed inbeen out 13 years and even for research purposes, i find it way too painful to read this wt stuff.. and why?.
all the painful memories it brings back.
don't misread me, it has nothing to do with a guilty conscience.. it has to do with the real pain, the anger of being ripped off and lied too by the wts, the anger of seing how they have protected child molesters, sacrificed its followers by refusing blood transfusions, the treacherous way we and others were treated by the 'unloving brothers'.
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Emma
Not painful but nauseating. Literally.
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My First Christmas Dinner
by Abe L. Toseenow inmy family is all in, but my wife's family are not jws, except for her mom and sister(more on her later).
my wife's uncle calls and invites us to the family christmas dinner on sunday.
he says he doesn't understand why we never come, he always tells my wife's jw mom to invite us, but when she comes shes says we couldn't make it.
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Emma
My boss, an agnostic, celebrates the season and had this to say:
"[...]let me close with a Christmas thought. I’m a big fan of Christ and his values. Somehow, I choose to think he would have sympathized with the philosopher Marcus Aurelius when he advised, "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods but they are unjust, you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
I rather think Christ’s message was “Live a good life.” That’s the sentiment I like to honor and celebrate this season, so in that spirit, Merry Christmas!!!"
Enjoy this beautiful season!
Emma
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Have you recieved your Secret Santa gift yet?
by Lady Lee inmany were sent out early.
presumably some of them have or will be arriving soon.. many choose to wait to open their gift while others can't stand the excitement.. whether you open it immediately or not please let us know it has arrived..
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Emma
Not yet, but there's time!