i thought id give you an update re whats going on.
my qing the wts of recent has been very hard on my wife.
if i could, i would change my timing of doing so, but its just the way it has happened.
Winston - I don't envy you and the decissions you have to make for you and your wife. Just keep loving her the way you have and watch your back at the meetings.
Prayers, hugs and warm fuzzies to all who don't feel as if they have it in them to leave just yet.
(2003-07-25) -- the white house announced today that the u.s. does not really have the dead bodies of uday and qusay hussein, and the two are still on the loose somewhere in iraq.. .
"we showed those fake pictures yesterday in hopes of re-establishing some credibility with the iraqis," said an unnamed senior white house official.
"we just thought we had to do something after we lied about saddam's weapons of mass destruction.
SO which came first - GW or JC? 
i thought id give you an update re whats going on.
my qing the wts of recent has been very hard on my wife.
if i could, i would change my timing of doing so, but its just the way it has happened.
Winston - Please go with your wife to the Bible Studies and Meetings. I'm on meds and I get depressed when I leave the KH or a Bible Study AND I'm not even a JW! I can't even imagine her emotional turmoil with the cong., elders meeting, the Watchtower reading she may have forgotten to do and oh by the way since her husband no longer believes she'll be in Paradise alone.... (Please note the s arcasm here) Anyhow the point is you don't know what 'they're' saying without you there and even though you question the Dates, if you don't attend that will give them more reason to 'talk'.
I've read all the posts and completely agree the two of you need to see someone (not recommended by a JW friend) immediately. Medication is not a cure all, but it does even out the high's and low's and helps you to think a bit more clear. I've been on & off for 5 years now and am on EffexorXR. I started with St. Johns Wort (and self medicated with wine & beer) went to Prozac and settled for Effexor after the baby. The Dr.'s aren't going to 'fix' the problems, they just equipt you with the tools to do it yourself. You and your wife are in for a long and bumpy ride, we're all just back seat drivers.
You're doing a great job! 
this is an interesting advertisment that is in a regional state newpaper.
"why are an estimated 2 1/2 million jehovah's witnesses not sleeping well at night?".
come for enlightening information friday august 15th, 2oo3 at 7:oo p.m .
They aren't sleeping because they're:
Listening to the funky KH Singers
Out in Service
At the Night clubs, drinking and holding Bible Studies
Holding their annual Barn Raising
Enjoying the World and all it has to offer............
HEY SEND ME I'LL GO and find out why they aren't sleeping.
Maybe the pocket watch trick wore off and they've all snapped out of it.
just discovered today that a woman named melissa died last week.
she worked at the village pantry c-store next door to the mission where i am staying.. apparently the next door neighbor broke into her house, raped her, tortured her for at least 2-3 hrs, then stabbed her 57 times and then slit her throat.. i was shocked to find this out this afternoon as i was getting ready to wait on the bus (i'm posting now at the radio shack store where i quickly check on my email and take a quick peek at the forum.).
the girl was only 22 years old.. the cops knows who did this and they're looking for him.
((((Yiz))))
How frightening and so sad. Please just take careof yourself and check in when you get a chance.
i am starting a new thread so folks do not have to search through several pages of posts to find this image.
the original thread was here.
i received the following fax this morning from my old isp(dirtclod.com was coincidentally moved the same day i received notice regarding this copyright infringement for bandwidth purposes) and was seven pages in length.
http://www.chillingeffects.org is the way to go. They translate your letter into 'English' and seem to help on a number of other issues. Great site!
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that's right folks, and sorry to get the hopes up of some, but, contrary to what you may have supposed by the subject heading, mr. & mrs. cheeses are off to vanuatu for a week of rest and recreation, leaving friday.. coinciding with our recent 28th wedding anniversary and my upcoming 50th birthday, we decided to flit off to a tropical island for a break of the mundane routines of everyday life.. you all be good (or evil, whichever way you want to look at it), and remember - cheeses is watching.
whooooooo hoooooo 
What will we do when you're gone? 
Enjoy & Congrats!
stardate: june 27, 2001 .
prince
has really started an intimate artist-to-fan relationship.
Prince is the new JW Poster Boy! YEA THAT'LL LAST!
While reading this I too thought it funny how JW's latched onto this and how 'worldly' he is. Somehow I wonder how he's going to go out in service?
HEY when is Kevin Smith releasing this and what's it for? I just had a Redbank NJ journey this past weekend. Did the tourist thing and took photos of Quick Stop & went to the Secret Stash.
Thanks for posting this info - will send it out to my current Prince friends.
so i'm considering having a 'talk' with my father about being a jw (maybe giving him c of c) and all that i'm finding about the wts.
there are many levels to this and i was wondering what happens when you fade out?
what was 'that' feeling replaced with for you?
RR - I still live a JW type life, that is, I go to work and go to church, but without the strain. I get to spend time with my family, go on vacation, or long weekends without having to worry about the meetings or having to answer to others why I'm missing meetings to go away and do "worldly" things.
I still live a decent life, and worship God the best I can, I have friends I can count on, I've renewed old pre-Watchtower friendships, and made new ones.
You're the best! It must have helped to have your wife on your side!
I wish you and your wife much success with the upcoming birth of your son and am truly sorry to about his twin sister. You & your wife must have been in so much pain and yet must stay strong for the new baby and your 1st daughter. Please extend my congratulations on your wife’s pregnancy. There're so many women who would give anything just to feel or be pregnant – even for one day. Knowing that doesn't make things go away, but it does remind us the joy of knowing - will one day outweigh the loss.
As a male and the spiritual head of the family, and responsible for spiritual growth, how can a family be divided by the WTS? And wouldn't the same reasoning work in reverse for Christians married to JW's?
After watching my JW parents for a year...and after falling flat on my face (a story for another thread) I too made a conscience decision to become more Christian in my behavior and life. Like them I wanted to become a better person for myself and as an indirect result - be an example. Maybe that’s why I’m concerned for them and I’m trying to place the shoe on the other foot so to speak.
the "untouchable" woman touched the robe of jesus' garment (matthew 9:21, mark 5:28).
did jesus rebuke her?
the disciples tried to turn the children away.
Lady Lee - "people we have never met can reach out and touch us with the love that Christ spoke of. Meanwhile our families ignore and shun us in our pain. Even those who do not believe in God have true empathy for others and it shows all over this site. I have felt more love and compassion from strangers than I have ever felt from my JW mother" (((((((for all feeling hurt))))))
I think you are SO right on this! Whenever I hear my stepmom say something mean I always have a comeback and say simply 'that's not very Christian of you'. Of course the source (me) is equal to the Devil but oh well................
It's very hard to feel rejected by your parents and so please keep in mind it's their sickness, or religion or whatever your case may be - but it's not yours and you always have a choice.
