Posts by Magnum

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Blood Transfusions - What are the risks?

by Lee Elder in

this is a new article that we've just published:.

http://ajwrb.org/blood-transfusions-what-are-the-risks.

lee elder.

Magnum

JW GoneBad:

1) NO diciplinary action is taken against the member.

2) No disfellowshipping to worry about.

3) The patient faces No repercussions or consequences from the organization or other individual members or from the congregation he is a member of for the blood transfusion.

4) The paitent faces No shunning for taking a blood transfusion.

5) No privileges are taken away for accepting a blood transfusion.

All the above taken right out of the horse's mouth.....so to speak!!!

Interesting.

bsmart: By taking a transfusion they still say that you are no longer a witness,,,,, you dissociate yourself. Till I read it in their publications I don't believe it.

But how can one be considered to have disassociated himself if no privileges are taken away?

If what JW GoneBad posted is true, I don't think you will see it in the publications - at least for a while. I believe they've been wanting to drop the blood doctrine for a while, but can't, or at least have to do it extremely gradually, for obvious reasons. Interestingly, as far I know, they did not have the annual Service Meeting blood part this year and maybe the year before, also. That seems significant to me.

Lee Elder, good to see you're still around and active.

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Another article that won't be found in "Watching the World"

by sir82 in

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http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/07/educational_technology_s_next_move_tools_to_help_kids_learn_with_their_bodies.html?wpisrc=hpsponsoredd2.

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"sit still and pay attention" is all a jw kid hears from age 2 to 18..

Magnum

Man, ain't that the truth. And the fact the program is boring drivel, often delivered in an inept manner, makes it even that much worse.

And you're right; the "Watching the World" material gatherers will conveniently skip that article.

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1975 - Have we seen this quote before?

by Splash in

spotted while doing some research:.

*** g71 10/8 p. 27 time of rest and refreshment at hand ***.

as we near the end of 6,000 years of human history in the mid-1970s there is the thrilling hope of a grand relief.. this looks like a more conclusive statement about 1975 than what the wt has written in other places.. can it mean anything other than armageddon is coming in 1975 - the "end of 6000 years of human history"?.

Magnum

I definitely think that's what they meant and had in mind, but, of course, we know they will spin it another way now.

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A fawn comes bleating, . . .

by compound complex in

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at my open screen door, in search of mama.. i come into the living room (from the kitchen), we exchange glances for a moment, and he beats a hasty retreat.

i am not mama.

.. meantime, finches gather 'round the four birdbaths in my garden and splash about and share the latest birdland gossip.. .

Magnum

Lots of raccoons and an occasional deer. Once, a young wild boar started coming in the yard in the afternoons. He would lie on his side and sleep.
We petted and scratched him, and as we did, he made a sound indicating extreme pleasure; it was sort of a cross between a pigeon's cooing and a cat's purring. He was really playful - would jump in the air and twist his body as a goat does.

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Goodbye JW net

by snare&racket in

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forgive me for indulging in a goodbye but it would feel wrong not to,.

i hope the discussions and atmosphere here do not change for it is a bubbling brew of doubt, bravery and sincere hunger for answers.

these are healthy ingrediants for humans and especially for a jehovah's witness.. this forum offers not just the ability to ask without consequence, but it also offers the means to be real.

Magnum

Wow! When I saw your post I got a sad feeling in my gut. It was actually sort of depressing. I really do wish you the best; I'm just sad to see you go. I feel attached to people on this site because we've been through something that most couldn't really grasp unless they had been through it.

Also, your story is interesting to me because I'm fascinated by the fact that you escaped early enough to accomplish what you did and that you had the stamina and drive to do it after coming out of JWdom. I would love to have gotten out early enough to do what you did. I'm 20 years older than you and most windows of opportunity for me are closed.

And, contrary to what you might think, I think you did it fairly young. 33 would not considered old in the U.S. to become a physician. Some here don't even start medical school until their 40's. There are even some in their 50's who get in.

Please do check back at least every once in a while. Let us know how your work is going and what you think about it after you've settled into it. I have enjoyed your contributions.

-Magnum

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Intelligent design vs evolution.

by moley in

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i was out walking my dog and thought, there is no way an intelligent being would create this animal :-).

Magnum

I've heard of Carroll and am interested in evo devo. Also, I'm familiar with Shermer but didn't know he had written about ID. Will check Amazon for both.

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Old WT Publications I have

by William Penwell in

i have a number of older wt publications.

due to downsizing, i would like to get rid of them.

if some of are of value and have not being scanned, i could scan them for all to share.

Magnum

I can't find "Then Is Finished the Mystery of God". Does anybody know where it's available as a pdf? I found the question booklet, but not the book itself.

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Intelligent design vs evolution.

by moley in

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i was out walking my dog and thought, there is no way an intelligent being would create this animal :-).

Magnum

Thank you.

The only ones on the list I have are "Why Evolution is True" and "The Blind Watchmaker". Will get the others.

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Intelligent design vs evolution.

by moley in

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i was out walking my dog and thought, there is no way an intelligent being would create this animal :-).

Magnum

cofty: strangelove - There are some excellent books that would help you understand it if you are interested.

Do you have some particular books in mind? If so, please list them.

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Very young baptized in new brochure

by Bye bye birdie in

on page 25 of the new release, "your family can be happy" the illustration of the young boy being baptized looks between the ages of 9-12.. thoughts?.

Magnum

Wow - Watchtower-Free, that is to true and so profound. And the boy is clueless; he has no idea what it's all about. He has not got the knowledge, experience, or reasoning ability to enable him to make such an important decision.

Just think, the young ones who are baptized now weren't even alive when the major generation change was made in 1995. They know nothing about the org's history; they nothing about Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Freddie, Ray, etc. They can't comprehend the blood issue. They have no clue what fractions are. They're no different from children who accept Islam because Mommie & Daddy and their peers do.

Does that little boy know how the Bible was canonized (heck, most adult JWs don't even know that)? It's just mind-boggling how little these children know, yet they're signing their lives away. And it's so true that he will never be able to change his mind without major consequences. It's amazing that a child can be held accountable for decision he made at ten years old.