Posts by Magnum

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Are Jdubs going to put the elderly out to pasture with JW.org?

by Coffee House Girl in

it will be interesting to see how things play out...but one example which got me to thinking about this is my mother.

my mom is a 76 year old regular pioneer (she is one of those who believes that you are "nothing" if you are not a pioneer...the position is everything)-.

i am moving in two weeks to go to grad school, so i have been trying to go out to visit...say goodbye...do things for her before i leave.

Magnum

Coffe House Girl: Even the little things like double clicking on an icon seem so confusing for her

I have observed the difficulty in clicking on an icon in older ones, too. I tried to teach my dad to use a computer and he literally just couldn't do the mouse double-click. I also tried to teach an older elder a few years ago; it was the same with him and the mouse double-click. It just looked so awkward and unnatural with both of them. They would sort of lean into the clilck with their entire upper bodies, and instead of the action being smooth and effortless, well, it just wasn't . To this day, neither is able to go much beyond turning a computer on.

My grandfather was a hard-working, true-believing JW. He pioneeered the hard way until he died in his 90's. He loved and lived for "the truth". I don't think he would like this new look, feel, and direction of the org. Heck, we aren't even supposed to be here now in "this system".

I'm beginning to agree with those who feel as you do about not spoiling the hopes of older ones. My mother is the same age as yours and I know, judging from things she's said, that she's concerned about not having much time left. I had been gradually trying to point out to her TTATT, but I think I'm going to just back off and let her keep her hope, unless she starts questioning me or speaking negatively of me.

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Do GB members poop?

by Magnum in

do gb members poop?.

the question arises because of the great similarities i see between jw land and n korea.

for one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; its one way from the top down.

Magnum

OMG - Billy the Ex, I'm literally laughing out loud in a room by myself. Never thought about that.

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Vermont Circuit #1 - What is the status ?

by theopug in

jw
friends

so i am reading some older posts from those in area and this is what i understand:.

1)brattleboro, bellows falls, & bennington congregations - stagnat growth for at least 20 years.

2)wilmington & north adams ma congreations - disolved.

Magnum

Thanks, Londo111.

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Do GB members poop?

by Magnum in

do gb members poop?.

the question arises because of the great similarities i see between jw land and n korea.

for one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; its one way from the top down.

Magnum

So they dump at the proper time since they have their "food at the proper time"?

In all seriousness, I find the similarities between JW land and N Korea to be significant. During my last few years as an active JW, I would love to have been able to have some serious, stimulating Scriptural discussions with my fellow JWs, but I was always scared and cautious. It truly was like I was under an oppressive regime - just like N Korea. I could never say anything negative. It could only be stuff like "Wasn't that a wonderful meeting?" or "Didn't you enjoy that new video?" or "The Governing Body really provides a banquet for us." In N Korea, people's own relatives will report them for saying something negative (sound familiar?). They can only praise the Great Leader.

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2014 God's Kingdom Rules PDF!

by Atlantis in

2014 god's kingdom rules pdf!

we would like to thank cedars who contacted a friend who sent us the book to scan.

the sender was promised that the book would be rerurned to them unharmed.

Magnum

Atlantis - thank you.

If you don't mind my asking, how do you (or wannabefree of whoever actually scanned it) produce scans such as this one? I scan books with a Fujitsu scanner, but I have to destroy them; I cut the spines off and put them into the paper feed of the scanner. In the case of this book, was it laid page by page on a flatbed scanner?

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Do GB members poop?

by Magnum in

do gb members poop?.

the question arises because of the great similarities i see between jw land and n korea.

for one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; its one way from the top down.

Magnum

Do GB members poop?

The question arises because of the great similarities I see between JW land and N Korea. For one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; it’s one way – from the top down. No questioning, critcising, or disagreeing allowed. They both use propaganda and control info. Those who dare question and/or challenge are banished in JW land and either imprisoned or executed in N Korea.

Inside both regimes, the people are starving, yet they think (because they’re told over and over) that they have it better than anybody outside their “walls”. They also believe that the entire world outside their walls is evil.

Both regimes have great leaders whom the people adore. These great leaders are magnificent. Kim Jong Un does not defecate according to a state website - “…an official biography on the North Korea state website that said he did not defecate.” http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/12/19/kim-jong-un-10-things-you-might-not-know-about-north-koreas-new-leader/

Therefore, the question about the GB – does Mark Sanderson ever drop a good one? Or how about Losch – does he ever have a good ole blow-out in the bathroom?

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Vermont Circuit #1 - What is the status ?

by theopug in

jw
friends

so i am reading some older posts from those in area and this is what i understand:.

1)brattleboro, bellows falls, & bennington congregations - stagnat growth for at least 20 years.

2)wilmington & north adams ma congreations - disolved.

Magnum

I give another to the signs of the declines.

So nobody has any updates about Vermont Circuit #1? If not, what about any other signs of declines?

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Modern JW Org

by Infowarrior in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqru9keiw4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsfyfiyzgg.

Magnum

Yeah, done4good, it seems like a deliberate, calculated rebranding. The org knows that the old brand was outdated & failing.

What is the endgame? Is it to simply try to keep more from leaving and be more attractive to possible recruits? If so, they will no longer attract any really quality recruits; they will only attract those who have no lives.

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Modern JW Org

by Infowarrior in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqru9keiw4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsfyfiyzgg.

Magnum

Mickey mouse: We've been out less than 3 years but I hardly recognise it.

Same with me. It's so different from the JWdom I knew.

designs: They're trying to be relevant.

Yes, they are, but they are laughably irrelevant and don't seem to recognize it.

Just Kidding: I like this new direction in which the org is heading towards. More relaxed & open, rather than being uptight & rigid

I hope you are just kidding.

konceptual99: Yup, cos there is nothing even remotely bizzare about dancing in suits and ties in a car park, or cheering like a bunch of fans at a movie premiere for some people who managed the ridiculous feat of getting on a plane, flying to another country and then going on a bus trip. In a suit.

Oh, and it proves white people can't dance. In (or out of) a suit.

So true about the whites dancing. They shouldn't even go there. I'm embarassed.

joe134cd: I must admit this is a big step forward.

In what way? I think it's a bunch of steps backward. JWs predict the end of the world is imminent and that most humans are about to become bird food. Is what's shown in the videos the way they should be acting if they truly believe what they say they do?

You and I see things completely differently in this case. I see a bunch of goody-goody nerds trying to be hip, cool, and relevant and failing miserably. As a JW in years past, I remember seeing church groups doing things like what's shown in the videos and thinking how goody-goody and self-righteous and corny they were. Now I'm seeing JWs do the same things and I get the same feeling about them.

I liked JWs when I thought they had doctrinal truth and they were serious and dignified and proud to be different. Now, they're selling out; they're corny & embarassing. They get dumber and dumber. They smugly and self-righteously think they have the truth, yet can't even begin to defend their doctrine and theology. I want nothing to do with them.

I have nothing against music and dancing and fun. I love it. For example, recently my wife and I went to one of the Disney parks in Orlando. As we entered the gate, we saw musical groups, dancing, acrobatics, etc. everywhere we looked. It was fun & stimulating. I hated to leave. But what I experienced that day was far different from seeing a bunch of stupid, clueless, corny JWs trying to show everybody they are hip and can have fun.

AlphaMan: From the looks of the videos coming out the JWs are now getting the Holy Ghost

Yep, looks like it.

Pistoff:

I am embarrassed by those videos; the celebration of style over substance.

This is the type of thing the WT has always sniffed at and condemned.

An R&B band?? NOT kingdom songs?

What the hell?

I feel as do you.

A.Proclaimer: This is only done for international delegates for the international assembly. They're the new line of VIP members

True. So it's sort of like a class distinction. Only those with money who can afford the cost of the trip get the VIP treatment. The poor old pioneer who gave his all to the org and barely has enough to eat will never be able to afford such trips (I know; I was the poor pioneer).

millie210: It is a new and confusing day to be a JW.

Yeah; I'm still scratching my head trying to figure it all out. What's going in JW land? It sure is different. When I came in, it was serious and dignified, and we really thought the end was imminent and we lived accordingly. Now, it seems that JWs think they are in for the long haul and are trying to be seen as a fun, hip group.

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Blood Transfusions - What are the risks?

by Lee Elder in

this is a new article that we've just published:.

http://ajwrb.org/blood-transfusions-what-are-the-risks.

lee elder.

Magnum

Metatron, I hope that doesn't happen. I don't want them to have an easy way out. Maybe that's what they're waiitng on. Maybe they know their doctrine is wrong, but they're waiting on something like what you mentioned to occur so they won't have to admit they were wrong.

However, I don't really see how that would give them a way out. Blood grown from stem cells would seem to me to still be forbidden by them according to their doctrine. Blood grown from stem cells would still be blood. It wouldn't be like some kind of blood substitute.