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  Anybody have news of Blondie?

  by BluesBrother in

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  we have all enjoyed reading the proliferation of posts by blondie.

  however, the latest one seems to be four months ago.

  i do hope that she is o k. .

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  Magnum

  I, too, wonder and miss her.
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  App message about jw.org HQ

  by Gorbatchov in

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  got this week a message from a jw friend about the jw.org headquarters move to warwick.. the message shows how even rational witness (my friend is a rational businessman) share the jw emotional madness that's going arround the jw social media now.

  how sad!

  read for your self:.

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  If Jehovah can so clearly tell them when and where to engage in real estate business, why can't he tell them what a "generation" is? Why couldn't/didn't he stop them from printing all the BS they've printed over the last century that's come back to haunt them?
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  My ExElder Best Friend Has Coronavirus

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  this has been a horrible month.

  my best friend’s wife just called to tell me that my friend had to be hospitalized due to severe coronavirus complications.

  he has severe pneumonia, is put on a ventilator and is in a coma .

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  Do you think it's his age that's the reason he's having a hard time? What is he - 60ish? I'm curious like 3rdgen; are they PIMI?
  
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  Need help - How do you determine whether to show a JW the truth or not?

  by AlainAlam in

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  2. friends

  how do you determine whether to show a jw the truth or not?.

  now some of you still believe in the bible.

  to you the answer would be obvious - we preach to anyone as much as possible.

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  I think it's getting harder to show JWs the truth - not because we lack evidence, reasoning ability, etc., but because JWs now seem to be blindly loyal to the org & GB and less open-minded . In the recent past, I was thinking it was going get easier and easier to reason with them because of the mounting evidence that JWism is wrong.

  I recently tried to reason with two JW relatives who I thought would be more open and reasonable. In the past they were level-headed and reasonable, but they've changed. It seems JWs are more brainwashed than ever. My two relatives were completely unreasonable and closed-minded.

  To answer your question, I guess you would have to sort of know the person's current state of mind and feelings to know whether there is an opening. If there is an opening, you could maybe present some point as if it's disturbing you and you're just seeking the JW's opinion. Maybe that would penetrate the 'force field' around his head and get him on the road to seeing TTATT (the truth about "the truth").

  On the other hand, if you don't see an opening - some kind of doubt, frustration, genuine honesty, etc. on the part of the JW - it might be best to not try to show him the truth, or to let some time pass and see whether he changes, or perhaps to just briefly mention some point maybe in question form as if you're wondering about it.
  
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  WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

  paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

  paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

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  Wow! That article oozes positivity!

  I haven't seen it, so what's the deal? Are they attempting to address the doctrinal issue they're having with the increasing number of partakers?
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  You mentioned the reddit post and said this: "most of the damage done by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is due to the unintended consequences of their actions, rather than the intention to do damage to people."

  I agree with that, however, one's intent can still be classified as evil even if the damaging consequences of his actions to others were unintended.

  Two scenarios:

  1) Joe is a hateful person who loves to cause pain and suffering to others and to harm them. He breaks into your house and tortures and kills you. He intended to harm you.

  2) John doesn't have any desire to harm you, but he is a thief and he wants what you have. He breaks into your house to steal your stuff and when he sees you in the house, he causes you harm. His intention was not to cause you harm; it was an unintended consequence of an evil desire/action. Or consider a slave owner who works his slaves brutally and doesn't reward them. His intentions are not to cause them harm; they are to get the cotton to the market so he can make money. However, he is still evil.

  So, one's intentions can still be classified as being evil even though they weren't to directly cause harm to others.

  The org has used people and destroyed lives. The prime of my life was taken from me. I was robbed of millions just in wages I could have made. And yes, the org is deceptive, and some of the leaders have to know it.

  As Cofty mentioned, they have to know the blood doctrine is wrong. They want so badly for the issue to go away. They're coming as close as they can to accepting blood transfusions. That "fractions" stuff is totally BS, and they have to know it. If I tell you not to touch my car, but you touch a tire or the windshield or a mirror, could you claim you're not touching my car (because you're only touching a part (or fraction) of it?) If I tell you not to eat my pizza, so you separate it into "fractions" like crust and cheese and pepperoni and eat them separately, are you not guitly?

  Either it's permissible to take a blood transfusion or it's not. Once can't separate blood into fractions and then accept the fractions and claim he's not taking a transfusion.

  The org knows it's wrong, but can't backtrack on the blood doctrine because of all the lost lives and the PR nightmare that would result. No, the intentions aren't to directly cause harm, but they are still evil.

  Also, as Cofty mentioned, they have to know they're wrong about 607. You have to research Carl Olof Jonsson's letters to the org, etc.

  Another deceptive thing is the disaster relief moneymaking scam. I'm going to start a thread about that hopefully soon.
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  My Girlfriend’s Beautiful Scottish Terrier Died Yesterday 😥

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mia was almost 8 and she was the sweetest dog who was my girlfriend’s constant companion.

  she had a wonderful disposition and was just a source of joy to everyone who would meet her.. she was brought to the vet on thursday and seemed to have digestive issues.

  the vet gave her medicine and said it would make her sleepy.

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  Very sorry. It hurts. I know from vast experience.
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  This'll put a smile on your face....

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ....and you'll think about it every time you hear america singing, "a horse with no name.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4lnc6b4jri.

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  Magnum

  Dang, that was funny. My wife and I both at first thought the guy actually had a horse in his house. How do people think of this stuff?
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  What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  some people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.

  some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.

  if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.

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  I think I'm biased toward the 80's because it was my last decade as a nonJW and I had so much fun in that decade (was raised as a JW, but didn't get baptized until later). I honestly don't even remember the 90's; don't know what characterizes the decade. I was so deep into JWdom as a regular pioneer/elder living in difficult circumstances that the 90's decade was a blur.
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  What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?

  by minimus in

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  some people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.

  some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.

  if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.

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  Magnum

  80's. It was a fun decade. Loved the music, the style, the look and feel.