ignorance within within the organization i am aware of, but ignorance within the ignorance of the organisation....? Amazing. I love that you took time to investigate this though. :-)
AbaDaddy
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Probably the most bizarre encounter with a witness family.
by Dis-Member inwent to a bar with a friend a few days ago.. we were sitting in the outside garden and i went back inside to get another round.
on my way back out i passed some tables with a family of about 6 or 7 people sitting and celebrating a birthday.. i overheard the name jehovah mentioned and i stopped and asked if they were witnesses to which one of them replied 'yes'.. we got into conversation about the latest watchtowers and the governing body.
none of them had a clue what i was talking about.. they new nothing of the 8 men brooklyn being the faithful and discreet slave, nothing about c.t russell or rutherford, nothing of how jesus came and selected them as his chosen people in 1914-19, in fact the only thing they knew about 1914 was that that was when the first world war started, nothing about malawi and mexico, never heard of candace conti or any of the sex abuse scandals, nothing about the 2 witness rule, nothing about the elders being chosen by the holy spirit, nothing about 'new light', nothing about the orgs involvement with the un, nothing about the blood fractions changes they knew almost nothing at all about the majority of their own organisations core teachings.
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Evolution - What Darwin Never Knew
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aybrbcli4zu.
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AbaDaddy
"people you actually believe a fucking deer can turn into a whale."
oh dear. So random and so angry so soon. To blurt a 'people like you..' accusation is a white flag in any argument.
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Do you recall your first encounter with a atheist? What was your thought?
by jam ingrowing up in the south everyone i knew believed in god, even the.
town drunk.
i remember watching some special tv program around xmas .
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AbaDaddy
Where I grew up, in the south-east of England, i was aware only that implicit atheism was common, the type that neither believed nor disbelieved, but might say "well, i believe in something". I do not remember specifically meeting an explicit atheist, someone to challenge my (JW) beliefs directly. the development of atheism for me was not deliberate. Born into the religion and baptised at 18 yrs-old (Norwich Assembly Football Stadium, nearby swimming pool :-)). I later met some atheists, after I became one. But the beauty and curse of atheists is that they rarely group, because it is not a structured belief system. Anyway, I'm rambling off topic.
Atheism, i always thought of as evil, immoral, nihilistic, as my parents still do. Although my existence as one challenges that ignorance. Having said that, every time I get into some brief discussion with my Mum, I have to again tell her i am an atheist. she seems to not quite grasp it and has this 'oh dear' look on her face.
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My mom wants me to disassociate myself from her on facebook if
by JWdaughter inmy mom sent me a email telling me that if i want to put any of that (non jw/non christian) religious stuff on my facebook then i should unfriend her.
i didn't respond directly.
i did take the email, remove id'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request.
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AbaDaddy
There is a GOD page on Facebook, that I 'liked' (it is sometimes amusing, and shocking, mostly due to agression and threats from religious types), and as a consequence my Mum is occasionally exposed to a post from this page. She sms'd me how offended she was by my involvment in such things and would I remove it. I thought about that for a day or so, and decided not to, for two reasons: 1) advertising 2) don't wanna!
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New Homo erectus Skull Shakes up Palaeontology
by cofty ina fantastic homo erectus skull has been found in georgia - no not our former colony, the one in asia.. it is one of 5 that have been found at a site in dmanisi, it's the first homo erectus to be found outside of africa and it is in excellent condition.
the fossils are dated at 1.8 million years ago and comparisions of the specimens have thrown doubt over the details of human evolution.. it is possible that species previously named as h rudolfensis , h gautengensis , h ergaster and possibly h habilis were actually all h erectus.
the natural variation withing the species may be greater than thought previously.. the "lumpers" and the "splitters" are going to have plenty to argue about for years to come.. note to creationists - please read the article carefully.
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AbaDaddy
fakesmile:
" i can solve the mystery of evolution in one sentance... never underestimate a mans likleyhood of putting his willie where it doesnt belong. example... i recently heard that a sheep can carry a human fetus for several weeks. i do not care who or when that fact was confirmed. and i dont even want to think about the origin of the platypus. INTELLIGENCE? i think not."
Very good. Your Nobel Prize awaits. :-)
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"you're pretty compassionate for an atheist"
by Hortensia inmy favorite compliment of the day.
what a lot of assumptions people have about what makes an atheist tick..
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AbaDaddy
kassad84, only a fascist regime, like religion, or a gangster, would make such threats. there is an answer as to why this kind of ignorance is enforced, and the answer may be very revealing. it is this kind of thinking that has in the past held, and attempts to persist in holding, humanity and its progress in bondage. Faithful and discreet slave indeed.
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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AbaDaddy
"Really you should have been thinking about how best your individual efforts would serve in the best interest of the organization which Jehovah is using to accomplish His will."
It all sounds a bit group-selectionist (a controversial view in evolutionary theory); this would only work if some intelligence was managing it also. Well, that and facism, and communism, erm...:-)
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Best proof to give a JW that humans history is older than 6000 years?
by Mr Fool inlooking for proven evidences.
can it be proven that jerichos walls were built 8000bc?.
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AbaDaddy
Carbon dating; cave paitings; fossil evidence; tools, etc.
I assume you are talking about the history of homo sapiens
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"you're pretty compassionate for an atheist"
by Hortensia inmy favorite compliment of the day.
what a lot of assumptions people have about what makes an atheist tick..
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AbaDaddy
Hi villagegirl,
" I studied evolution"
not very well obviously. bad teacher?
begin your evolutionary thinking this way:
a rapidly replicating chemical algorythm
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"you're pretty compassionate for an atheist"
by Hortensia inmy favorite compliment of the day.
what a lot of assumptions people have about what makes an atheist tick..
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AbaDaddy
Hi Stand for pure worship, let's refine a few glaring assumptions, misconceptions and falsities:
1) "The thing about atheists is, their belief system is built upon chaos, if not fantasy."
Assuming you are theist/deist, this is a little ironic but more importantly, Atheism is not a belief system; indeed it is the rejection of one.
2) "You're talking about a demographic of people that fanatically devote themselves to the premise that life came out of nowhere."
Your choice of words, like 'fanatically' and 'devote', are unwarranted here unless you are referring to a specific atheist you know. You are also assuming the belief system of atheists. And that "life came out of nowhere" is a 'problem' we all have to face, whether you believe in a god or not.
3) "Not only that, but when it came about, it's building blocks provided a recipe for the impossible. That being, man evolved from monkies which is the atheist equivalent of the Genesis account."
- Again the assumption is that Atheists have a specific belief system. They do not.
- "...a recipe for the impossible". I have no problem with this, except to replace 'impossible' with 'improbable'.
- It is pedantic to argue this too much, but to add a little perspective, monkeys also evolved from monkey-like ancestors. and all mammals evolved from amphibian-like ancestors. we could go on.
- And the Genesis account being what; much more scientific and detailed?
4) "That said, it's difficult if not entirely impossible to believe these people have any compassion for their fellow man considering they believe everything in existence came about by chance."
we can explain 'compassion' and other so defined positive behaviours in other ways, but if you don't want to think about it, you can look to those atheists and atheist organisations that are compassionate, both generally and specifically, and maybe pause for thought as to why.
5) "They remind me of the sociopath in No Country for Old Men in that they believe the purpose in life is as meaninglessness as a coin toss."
- Do they indeed. May i suggest not becoming an atheist, because no god will save me from the likes of you.
- 'the purpose'? there's only one? the implication here is that someone set a purpose in motion, but again you assume too much. 'Meaning' can be defined in philosophical terms, scientific terms and general terms. It may help you, or in fact me, to define what is meant by 'meaning' here. Is an ant's life meaningless; a parrot's? is your life more meaningful then, say, a Buddhist's? from where does this meaning derive?
6) "That said, atheism may be as dangerous to modern civilized society as communism was in the previous century."
By this you mean the absence of religious thinking in politics may be dangerous or the assumed atheistic evolutionary thinking? Because you know, just because something IS does not mean that it OUGHT to be.