Posts by abiather

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

jgnat

You brought it to a nice conclusion when you touched on " excessive generosity"--something which people take advantage of!

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Bobcat

Thank you for your Post 925 of 1157 on July 24, 2013, which has enough and more on Last Days.

I just wanted to highlight, under the guise of LAST DAYS prophesy, the need for us to be cautious and to less expect from others—that’s all.

I don’t why, I come across lots of ungrateful people in my life these days--yet they are all well-educated ones.

In the past, we used to link the ungrateful with the uneducated! Things are not so today--even terrorists are well-educated today!

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

I agree with you—there is corruption in it! Yet we can see statements that are eternally true such as Mathew 5:44-48; James 2:8, which, if practiced, will benefit the practicer first, and others second.

Hence don't dismiss the Bible completely--take only what appeals to your reason.--1Thess 5:21, 22.

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Farkel

Thank you for the inputs.

The whole point is not about the connection between education and ingratitude—its just a thought-provoking question!

The point is this: Something somewhere is dangerously lacking, making Bible prophecy accurate!

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Increased knowledge (I mean school education) would have made people more cultured and grateful, in addition to making them learn a a skill. But now we are forced to ask:

Is education and ingratitude directly proportionate?

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The Definition of Insanity: LOYALTY TO THE GOVERNING BODY

by Terry in

the definition of insanity boils down to expecting success by repeating actions which cause failure.. .

jehovah's witnesses are expected to prove their loyalty to the organization by believing and practicing what they are told.. does this lead to success or failure?.

ask the thousands of loyal believers who were led to expect armageddon in 1914, 1925, 1975!.

abiather

I liked your phrase:

"a test of SANITY."

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of “Last Days.” “People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ….ungrateful….” etc. (2 Timothy 3:2) It seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.

I was watching an interview on the TV the other day. When asked why you stopped film-making and Film-direction, the former Film-director (who has directed over 30 POPULAR movies with family theme—and he himself was the story-writer for most of those movies), he said: “I had highlighted one social theme in each of my films—with something for people to learn. I thought I was doing a great favor to the people. That was an illusion! When I got a National Award, many unknown people conveyed their congratulation, using various means. Most noteworthy among them was one former film actor, who was on his death-bed due to partial paralysis. He was always on villain role in the movies. I have never used him in my movies, and he has no selfish motive in congratulating me, yet he DID!

Yet none of the 18 heroines I introduced into the film-world (all of them became very popular later) through my films took the trouble of conveying to me their feelings!

Thus I learned that the good continue to be good whereas others continue to behave the way they like no matter how much good lessons are being made available to them!
When I heard his conclusion, I just remembered my colleague. He took a huge Education Loan from the Bank to help his only son with his Engineering study. Once the son got employed in a prestigious corporation and began to draw huge salary, the son made a habit of quarrelling with his Dad on too petty family issues like washing the vessel …. and so on) with the intent of separation (and with the ulterior motive of dumping the burden of repayment of loan to his Dad). Now both are separated. His Dad, a long-time widower, lives alone! Son did not bother to repay even the first installment of the loan he made use of!

Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

abiather

DeWandelaar

You are right 100%. As all other religions, Paul too finds it difficult to explain sin and its expiation. In the process, people come up with some explanation which would not stand under scrutiny!

Correct explanations should meet the following criterion:

1) Man does acts of virtue or vice because of his own volition and choice, hence he is 100% responsible.

2) This would mean there will be variety of personalities—good, bad and those in between with mixed qualities in varying degree.

3) The reward should not be just heaven and hell, but each one should get varying reward according to the degree of merit or demerit one has earned. (Jesus hinted about this when he said: “with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” (Mathew 7:2; Mark 4:24; Luke 6:38) but he gave no elaboration.

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

abiather

DeWandelaar

The word “sin” is negative; hence many would not like it. Also, the word “sin” has a guilty connotation. When we are aware that there is cause and effect, that “sin” is just a cause for a consequence that you will experience. Therefore, nothing is “sin,” but just a cause for a consequence to be experienced.

Hence let us give up the word sin, and take the concept behind it:

We know that when we do good, good things happen to us—and vice versa. Hence what brings good to us and others is virtue and what brings hardship to us and others will be vice!

In broader sense, sin/vice would be doing harm to others, and not doing anything to alleviate the pain of the suffering when we have abundance to help them!

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

abiather

Syme

Nice observation: “If the JWs had political power, they would kill also.” In their thinking they treat the ex-witnesses as those who have already being killed.

Now, regarding your OT apprehension:

All those God-authorized killings are attributed to God so that genocides assume validity. Jesus says many things in the OT are not original. (Mathew 19:4-8) In the great fire of Alexandrian Library, all the original scrolls of OT too were destroyed. What we have is the copy of the copy of copy ….. So is the case with NT scrolls. We need to take only what is REASONABLE. (1 Thess 5:21, 22) Mathew 5:44-48 and James 2:8 are universal in application, and its validity can never be questioned or doubted because it does not distinquish between JWs and gentiles/apostates!

Even many things that are supposedly said by Jesus is actually attributed to him. For example, the lengthy last super speech has never taken place, in which the new commandment is introduced. See, Apostle James is not at all aware of such a new command or speech. Because, he invokes “Scriptures” (not Jesus Christ) as authority for saying love your neighbor as yourself:

“If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right (James 2:8)

Jesus would never make thoughtless, God-dishonoring statements. Yet we find him doing so in John 9:1-3 where he presents God as creating people with physical deformities for "HIS GLORY"—God as a sadist—another example of saying attributed to him!