Posts by abiather

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Can Spirit-Directed Organization Lie?

by abiather in

when god says something, it is like the meaning of traffic signal: red light means always stop.. when spirit-directed organization says something, it is like shining ever brighter till the full light of day, (proverb 4:18) and then it becomes dimmer and dimmer and at the end of the day darker and darkest, .

thus red lights meaning becomes start!.

yes, a spirit-directed organization can lie.

abiather

Prologos:

"And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’

“One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’

22 “‘By what means?’ the Lord asked.

“‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.

“‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord . ‘Go and do it.’

23 “So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you.”--1King 22:20-23.

What a fitting verse from the Bible itself!

Thank you, prologos

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Can Spirit-Directed Organization Lie?

by abiather in

when god says something, it is like the meaning of traffic signal: red light means always stop.. when spirit-directed organization says something, it is like shining ever brighter till the full light of day, (proverb 4:18) and then it becomes dimmer and dimmer and at the end of the day darker and darkest, .

thus red lights meaning becomes start!.

yes, a spirit-directed organization can lie.

abiather

When God says something, it is like the meaning of Traffic Signal: Red Light means ALWAYS STOP.

When spirit-directed organization says something, it is like “shining ever brighter till the full light of day,” (Proverb 4:18) and then it becomes dimmer and dimmer and at the end of the day darker and darkest,
thus Red Light’s meaning becomes START!

Yes, a spirit-directed organization can lie. That is why Bible says the following:

“Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”—1John 4:1

Hence, there is nothing wrong in JWs using the term “Spirit-Directed Organization.”

“Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”—Revelation 22:11

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

jgnat

You brought it to a nice conclusion when you touched on " excessive generosity"--something which people take advantage of!

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Bobcat

Thank you for your Post 925 of 1157 on July 24, 2013, which has enough and more on Last Days.

I just wanted to highlight, under the guise of LAST DAYS prophesy, the need for us to be cautious and to less expect from others—that’s all.

I don’t why, I come across lots of ungrateful people in my life these days--yet they are all well-educated ones.

In the past, we used to link the ungrateful with the uneducated! Things are not so today--even terrorists are well-educated today!

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

abiather

DeWandelaar

I agree with you—there is corruption in it! Yet we can see statements that are eternally true such as Mathew 5:44-48; James 2:8, which, if practiced, will benefit the practicer first, and others second.

Hence don't dismiss the Bible completely--take only what appeals to your reason.--1Thess 5:21, 22.

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Farkel

Thank you for the inputs.

The whole point is not about the connection between education and ingratitude—its just a thought-provoking question!

The point is this: Something somewhere is dangerously lacking, making Bible prophecy accurate!

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Increased knowledge (I mean school education) would have made people more cultured and grateful, in addition to making them learn a a skill. But now we are forced to ask:

Is education and ingratitude directly proportionate?

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The Definition of Insanity: LOYALTY TO THE GOVERNING BODY

by Terry in

the definition of insanity boils down to expecting success by repeating actions which cause failure.. .

jehovah's witnesses are expected to prove their loyalty to the organization by believing and practicing what they are told.. does this lead to success or failure?.

ask the thousands of loyal believers who were led to expect armageddon in 1914, 1925, 1975!.

abiather

I liked your phrase:

"a test of SANITY."

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Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

by abiather in

bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of last days.

people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ....ungrateful.... etc.

(2 timothy 3:2) it seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.. i was watching an interview on the tv the other day.

abiather

Bible describes ingratitude as one of the characteristics of “Last Days.” “People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money ….ungrateful….” etc. (2 Timothy 3:2) It seems this prophecy about people becoming ungrateful is having its fulfillment more than 100%.

I was watching an interview on the TV the other day. When asked why you stopped film-making and Film-direction, the former Film-director (who has directed over 30 POPULAR movies with family theme—and he himself was the story-writer for most of those movies), he said: “I had highlighted one social theme in each of my films—with something for people to learn. I thought I was doing a great favor to the people. That was an illusion! When I got a National Award, many unknown people conveyed their congratulation, using various means. Most noteworthy among them was one former film actor, who was on his death-bed due to partial paralysis. He was always on villain role in the movies. I have never used him in my movies, and he has no selfish motive in congratulating me, yet he DID!

Yet none of the 18 heroines I introduced into the film-world (all of them became very popular later) through my films took the trouble of conveying to me their feelings!

Thus I learned that the good continue to be good whereas others continue to behave the way they like no matter how much good lessons are being made available to them!
When I heard his conclusion, I just remembered my colleague. He took a huge Education Loan from the Bank to help his only son with his Engineering study. Once the son got employed in a prestigious corporation and began to draw huge salary, the son made a habit of quarrelling with his Dad on too petty family issues like washing the vessel …. and so on) with the intent of separation (and with the ulterior motive of dumping the burden of repayment of loan to his Dad). Now both are separated. His Dad, a long-time widower, lives alone! Son did not bother to repay even the first installment of the loan he made use of!

Is ingratitude and education inversely proportionate?

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Scripturally, JW-system is synonymous with sin

by abiather in

loving ones neighbor (whether he is a believer or not) is the kingly law.

(mathew 5:44-48; james 2:8) it is the kingly law, because it originates from king of all kings; and all other laws originate from this law.

hence violation of this law is the greatest sin, or mother of all sins; because it is against king of all kings and king of all laws.. jw-system is a flagrant violation of this law on two counts:.

abiather

DeWandelaar

You are right 100%. As all other religions, Paul too finds it difficult to explain sin and its expiation. In the process, people come up with some explanation which would not stand under scrutiny!

Correct explanations should meet the following criterion:

1) Man does acts of virtue or vice because of his own volition and choice, hence he is 100% responsible.

2) This would mean there will be variety of personalities—good, bad and those in between with mixed qualities in varying degree.

3) The reward should not be just heaven and hell, but each one should get varying reward according to the degree of merit or demerit one has earned. (Jesus hinted about this when he said: “with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” (Mathew 7:2; Mark 4:24; Luke 6:38) but he gave no elaboration.