Posts by abiather

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Proof For The Existence Of God!

by abiather in

end results can determine worth of anything!

(mathew 11:19) by this simple criterion, scientists and religions are not very reliable.

it contains both gods word and mans word.

abiather

2+2=5

First you experiment; then only you can be negative about it.

See what happened to some of the scientists:

The desire for comfort and power has created many things in the world. Science has come as a desire for both comfort and power, and it has created both. But indiscriminate use of what Science has provided is destroying humanity. So much so that Albert Einstein felt that he had done a crime against humanity. In the last days of his life, somebody asked Einstein, If you were born again, what would you like to become He said, Never a physicist again, never a scientist. Rather, i would like to become a plumber.

The very framework of science is to gain dominion over nature. That is the very terminology of science conquest of nature. We have to overpower nature and we have to destroy all mysteries of nature, and we have to find all the keys of power. But the very idea takes you away from nature, makes you antagonistic to it and becomes destructive.
The ecology of the earth has been destroyed by this power-seeking. In the outside, in the inside both the natural rhythm of life is disturbed.

The great scientific minds of this century are coming, slowly, reluctantly, to recognize that a great mistake has been done.
The very desire to be powerful is against nature. Why do you need to be powerful? You must be thinking in terms of destroying somebody. Power is needed to destroy. Power is needed to dominate. Power is needed to conquer. Science tries to penetrate nature to get more power.

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Proof For The Existence Of God!

by abiather in

end results can determine worth of anything!

(mathew 11:19) by this simple criterion, scientists and religions are not very reliable.

it contains both gods word and mans word.

abiather

smiddy

If you can't agree with something in the Bible, that's the proof that that particular portion or verse is man's word. Because you are God' child, you are made in His image. If you can't approve certain things, means God too will not approve such things.

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Proof For The Existence Of God!

by abiather in

end results can determine worth of anything!

(mathew 11:19) by this simple criterion, scientists and religions are not very reliable.

it contains both gods word and mans word.

abiather

End results can determine worth of anything! (Mathew 11:19) By this simple criterion, scientists and religions are not very reliable. Science has brought more harm than help. Religions are good when they start, but later they go greedy and violate basic human rights.

Hence one should try for his own proof for the existence of God. How? Bible can give you ingredients for you to do your own experiments! It contains both God’s word and man’s word. You just need to weed out man’s word. (Mathew 13:25, 26, 30; Acts 20:28-30; 1 Thessalonians 5:20-22) All those verses that are very healthy, solid, and self-explanatory are God’s word. For example: Mathew 5:44-48; Deuteronomy 10:17 and Romans 2:11 which say: Be imitators of God who does good to both “the evil and the good” are God’s word. Its opposite that says: “Shun those who are not of our sort; don’t even greet them!” is man’s word.

Ingredients Bible Provides

Bible says God is our real Father (Mathew 23:9); our caring mother (Isaiah 66:13) reliable Guide (Psalm 48:14; 49:15); our Sweet Heart (Isaiah 54:5) and Faithful Companion (Isaiah 30:21) …..

You may pick up any or all of these relationships and take God as an upper tank of that quality/ies, and you as a lower vessel. Then link your consciousness to God. According to the Principle of SIPHON, His qualities will start flowing into your consciousness. You start receiving those positive vibrations, positive qualities. The more you link and concentrate, the more you receive as in the case of a lens placed against sun light!

Try this for some months with one or more qualities. You will not only have first-hand proof for the existence of God, but also you can even become “perfect” in any quality you want. (Mathew 5:48)

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Why the Grand Gestures?

by bemused in

when i visit this forum, i'm always a bit surprised by those members who, on deciding they no longer wish to be a witness, write long letters to the elders, set out their reasoning in e-mails to family and friends, attend judicial meetings to have their say etc.

i've never heard of an ex-catholic, for example, writing a resignation letter to their parish priest.. i'm a never-in so i can't appreciate the emotions these people are going through.

however they also often say a big worry is loss of contact with family and friends.

abiather

bemused

Very thought-provoking question and practical suggestion!

This is what two of my best friends did. They were very promising young Elders who used to give talks in DCs. They decided to fade! And they put the blame on their “demanding” secular jobs. They never told anybody (except a few like me) the real reason.

Even I did the same!

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

rawe

That is an interesting thought!

Thank you for that

Have a great day!

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

prologos

For centuries, it was thought that science can explain everything without God because it believed in materialistic reducibility. In this view, minds or consciousness,for instance, could be reduced to being a manifestation of the biological working of the brain based on the chemistry of nerve cells that were governed by laws laid down by physics. And physics,of course, could be reduced to matter and its interactions. NOTHING MISSING.

And adherents of such beliefs made it appear that all scientists were of same opinion.

However, Nobel laureate Eugene Wigner wrote that materialism was not logically consistent with present quantum mechanics. Sir Rudolf Peierls, another great 20th-century physicist, wrote, the premise that you can describe in terms of physics the whole function of a human being including knowledge and consciousness,is untenable. THERE IS STILL SOMETHING MISSING.

But quantum physics has now ushered in this enormous amount of uncertainty in matter that can only be resolved with the interaction of A MIND ON IT. If the human mind transcends matter to some extent,could there not exist minds that transcend the physical universe altogether? And might there not even exist an ultimate Mind?

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

snare&racket

When someone highlights the beneficial aspect of the Principle of cause and effect, how come you write words like “pseudoscience” which is the result of frustration?

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

snare&racket

You are asking: 'why can't I try the cancer support forums or help the children website?'

You are right.

I am already working (as part-time) with an organization (run by Catholic nuns) who takes care of mentally retard children and orphans.

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

Cofty:

To a vegetarian shop-keeper, would you ask: “Are you in any way connected with non-vegetarian lobby?”

When someone discusses Bible and JWs, I wonder how can people ask such UNRELATED question, even after saying in a previous thread:

“Let us not spoil the discussions with unrelated subjects.”

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There Is No Atheist In Practice!

by abiather in

1) in conscious level, everyone agrees with the principle of cause and effect that says a cause precedes every effect, and every effect is the cause for another effect/s.

in subconscious level, everyone knows that if there is a cause for everything, then there a cause (or a designer) for the principle of causation also.

and this cause is more real than the principle of causation itself, just like source is more real than the resources!.

abiather

snare&racket

You can disagree--that is the beauty of cause and effect principle!

Cause and effect principle is all about freedom and benefit!

1) You know better than anybody that your present is the result of the choices you made in the past—hence it follows that your future will be the result of choices you make in the present! Hence you can have control your future; hence it is about FREEDOM!

2) You want to take a particular course of action, and you have countless examples of people who have ALREADY taken such a course and reaped its consequences. Hence you can choose only those actions which brings benefits to you; hence it is about BENEFITS.

God has no role to play, because Cause and Effect mechanism DOES it any way!