Yes, I learned the GREATEST LESSON of my life from JWs that I should not offer suggestion to others. [I had good relationship with WT tops, but everything ended when I presented a paper to the Governing Body, using proper channel, that too when I did that very very CONFIDENTIALLY]
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Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?
by minimus inbesides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?
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Death sentence to a Woman carried out in Texas!
by abiather inthe charge against her is that she lured a mentally disabled man under the pretext of marrying him, but tortured and killed him by kicking and beating him with belts.. when she was put to death wednesday, suzanne basso became the 14th woman to receive the death penalty since its reinstatement 38 years ago (it was the 510th execution in texas).
people accept this as deserving, because they know what has happened.. this makes it easy to accept principle of cause and effect (galatians 6:7) that says there is a cause for everything (whether perceptible or not).
it is simply impossible to know all the details of all the causes preceding an effect as people have several births.
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That is the inheritance from JW training. When I was a Witness, my hobby was to buy various Bible versions, and I had over 100. I had even a piece of scroll that contained tetragramatton. When I left them, I began to collect the good from ALL RELIGIONS!
JWs do not know how much they are missing out under WT Umbrella!
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Death sentence to a Woman carried out in Texas!
by abiather inthe charge against her is that she lured a mentally disabled man under the pretext of marrying him, but tortured and killed him by kicking and beating him with belts.. when she was put to death wednesday, suzanne basso became the 14th woman to receive the death penalty since its reinstatement 38 years ago (it was the 510th execution in texas).
people accept this as deserving, because they know what has happened.. this makes it easy to accept principle of cause and effect (galatians 6:7) that says there is a cause for everything (whether perceptible or not).
it is simply impossible to know all the details of all the causes preceding an effect as people have several births.
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Cause and effect principle is not the asset of just one organization, as you, doofdaddy, believe!
Have a look at here:
Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
Christianity. Galatians 6.7
Suffering is the offspring of violence--realize this and be ever vigilant.
Jainism. Acarangasutra 3.13
Whatever affliction may visit you is for what your own hands have earned.
Islam. Qur'an 42.30
Our body in Kali Yuga is a field of action: As a man sows, so is his reward. Nothing by empty talk is determined: Anyone swallowing poison must die. Brother! behold the Creator's justice: As are a man's actions, so is his recompense.
Sikhism. Adi Granth, Gauri Var, M.4, p. 308
Galatians 6.7: Cf. Ezekiel 18.1-30, pp. 681f. Qur'an 42.30: Cf. Qur'an 53.36-42, p. 681. Gauri Var, M.4: Cf. Maitri Upanishad 4.2, p. 696.
All who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Christianity. Matthew 26.52
Those who wrongfully kill men are only putting their weapons into the hands of others who will in turn kill them.
Taoism. Treatise on Response and Retribution 5
Ashes fly back in the face of him who throws them.
African Traditional Religions. Yoruba Proverb (Nigeria)
For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.
Judaism and Christianity. Bible, Hosea 8.7
An ignorant man committing evil deeds does not realize the consequences. The imprudent man is consumed by his own deeds, like one burnt by fire.
Buddhism. Dhammapada 136
Men who acquire wealth by evil deeds, by adhering to principles which are wrong, fall into the trap of their own passions and fettered with karma they sink further down.
Jainism. Uttaradhyayana Sutra 4.2
A man who has committed one of the deadly sins will never again, until his death, lose the thought of that action; he cannot get rid of it or remove it, but it follows after him until the time of his death.
Buddhism. Perfection of Wisdom in Eight Thousand Lines 17.3
I have acted, I have caused others to act, and I have approved of others' actions. One should first comprehend that all such actions taking place in the world are the cause of the influx of karma particles, and then should forswear them.
Jainism. Acarangasutra 1.6-7
Unrighteousness, practiced in this world, does not at once produce its fruit; but, like a cow, advancing slowly, it cuts off the roots of him who committed it.
Hinduism. Laws of Manu 4.172
Dhammapada 136: Cf. Dhammapada 131-132, p. 478. Perfection of Wisdom in Eight Thousand Lines 17.3: The 'deadly sins' in Buddhism are specifically: (1) to kill one's mother; (2) to kill one's father; (3) to kill an arhat; (4) to cause schism in the Order; and (5) to harm the body of a Buddha.
Even if they attain to sovereignty, the wicked, engaged in cruel deeds, condemned by all men, do not enjoy it long, but fall like trees whose roots have been severed. O dweller in darkness, as in its proper season the tree puts forth its flowers, so in the course of time evil actions produce bitter fruit.
Hinduism. Ramayana, Aranya Kanda 29
Good fortune and misfortune take effect through perseverance. The tao of heaven and earth becomes visible through perseverance. The tao of sun and moon becomes bright through perseverance. All movements under heaven become uniform through perseverance.
Confucianism. I Ching, Great Commentary 2.1.5
As sweet as honey is an evil deed, so thinks the fool so long as it ripens not; but when it ripens, then he comes to grief.
Verily, an evil deed committed does not immediately bear fruit, just as milk does not curdle at once; but like a smoldering fire covered with ashes, it remains with the fool until the moment it ignites and burns him.
Buddhism. Dhammapada 69, 71
Let not their conduct grieve you, who run easily to disbelief, for lo! they injure God not at all. It is God's will to assign them no portion in the hereafter, and theirs will be an awful doom....
And let not those who disbelieve imagine that the rein We give them bodes good for their souls. We only give them rein that they may grow in sinfulness. And theirs will be a shameful doom.
Islam. Qur'an 3.176, 178
Then I saw the wicked buried; they used to go in and out of the holy place, and were praised in the city where they had done such things. Because sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the sons of men is fully set to do evil. Though a sinner does evil a hundred times and prolongs his life, yet I know that it will be well with those who fear God, because they fear before him.
Judaism and Christianity. Bible, Ecclesiastes 8.10-12
The net of Heaven is cast wide. Though the mesh is not fine, yet nothing ever slips through.
Taoism. Tao Te Ching 73
Qur'an 3.176, 178: Cf. Qur'an 4.92, p. 477 and 14.42-51, p. 1100; also 2 Peter 3.10, p. 1099, where the reason for God's slowness is divine forbearance that the wicked might have a chance to repent. Ecclesiastes 8.10-12: Cf. Yoruba Song, p. 111.
Further, as Heaven and Earth are the greatest of things, it is natural, from the point of view of universal principles, that they have spiritual power. Having spiritual power it is proper that they reward good and punish evil. Nevertheless their expanse is great and their net is wide-meshed. There is not necessarily an immediate response as soon as this net is set in operation.
Taoism. Pao-p'u Tzu
Everything is given on pledge, and a net is spread for all the living; the shop is open; and the dealer gives credit; and the ledger lies open; and the hand writes; and whosoever wishes to borrow may come and borrow; but the collectors regularly make their daily round, and exact payment from man whether he be content or not; and they have that whereon they can rely in their demand; and the judgment is a judgment of truth; and everything is prepared for the feast.
Judaism. Mishnah, Abot 3.20
Not in the sky, nor in mid-ocean, nor in a mountain cave, is found that place on earth where abiding one may escape from the consequences of one's evil deed.
Buddhism. Dhammapada 127
Though they dig into Sheol, from there shall my hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, from there I will bring them down. Though they hide themselves on the top of Carmel, from there I will search out and take them; and though they hide from my sight at the bottom of the sea, there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite them. And though they go into captivity before their enemies, there I will command the sword, and it shall slay them; and I will set my eyes upon them for evil and not for good.
Judaism and Christianity. Bible, Amos 9.2-4
According as one acts, according as one conducts himself, so does he become. The doer of good becomes good. The doer of evil becomes evil. One becomes virtuous by virtuous action, bad by bad action.
But people say, "A person is made [not of acts, but] of desires only." [I say,] as his desire, such is his resolve; as is his resolve, such the action he performs; what action he performs, that he procures for himself.
On this point there is this verse,
Where one's mind is attached--the inner self Goes thereto with action, being attached to it alone. Obtaining the end of his action, Whatever he does in this world, He comes again from that world To this world of action. So the mind who desires.
Hinduism. Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4.4.5-6
Pao-p'u Tzu: Written by Ko Hung (253-333), the Pao-p'u Tzu is among the most important classics of religious Taoism. It expounds belief in the Taoist Immortals, the doctrine of retribution, and the use of alchemical means to prolong life. Abot 3.20: The image of the ledger is a frequent one; cf. Abot 4.29, p. 346; Qur'an 17.13-14, 39.68-75, 50.17-19, pp. 345-48; 69.13-37, pp. 1098f.; Revelation 20.11-12, p. 346; Ramkali-ki-Var, M.1, p. 299. Amos 9.2-4: Cf. Qur'an 2.115, Atharva Veda 4.16, p. 111.
Action, which springs from the mind, from speech, and from the body, produces either good or evil results; by action are caused the conditions of men, the highest, the middling, and the lowest.
A man obtains the result of a good or evil mental act in his mind; that of a verbal act in his speech; that of a bodily act in his body.
In consequence of sinful acts committed with his body, a man becomes in the next birth an inanimate thing; in consequence of sins committed by speech, he becomes a bird or a beast; in consequence of mental sins he is reborn in a low caste.
Hinduism. Laws of Manu 12.3,8,9
According to what deeds are done Do their resulting consequences come to be; Yet the doer has no existence: This is the Buddha's teaching.
Like a clear mirror, According to what comes before it, Reflecting forms, each different, So is the nature of actions.
Buddhism. Garland Sutra 10
As you plan for somebody so God plans for you.
African Traditional Religions. Igbo Proverb (Nigeria)
Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4.4.5-6: This classic text describes the principle by which karma determines the site of reincarnation. Cf. Vedanta Sutra 1.2.1, p. 338; Svetasvatara Upanishad 5.11-12, p. 696. Laws of Manu 12.1-9: Cf. Vedanta Sutra 1.2.1, p. 338; Maitri Upanishad 4.2, p. 696. Garland Sutra 10: This passage reconciles karma and voidness. A person is subject to karma only as long as he dwells in the illusion that he exists as a self. Intrinsically empty of self, a person is like a clear mirror whose purity is not affected by the reflections that impinge upon it. Thus the person who courses in enlightenment will not accumulate new karma, though he may still have to work out the effects of past deeds. Cf. Majjhima Nikaya i.389-90, p. 345 and Anguttara Nikaya iii.33, p. 697.
All creatures on their actions are judged In God's court, just and true.
Sikhism. Adi Granth, Japuji 34, p. 7
God is not hornless; He is horned: He exacts punishment for every deed.
African Traditional Religions. Ovambo Proverb (Angola)
I the Lord search the mind and try the heart, to give to every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.
Judaism and Christianity. Bible, Jeremiah 17.10
Whoever vows to tyrannize over the humble and the meek, The Supreme Lord burns him in flames. The Creator dispenses perfect justice And preserves His devotee.
Sikhism. Adi Granth, Gauri, M.5, p. 199
To God belongs all that is in the heavens and on the earth; and whether you make known what is in your minds or hide it, God will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. God is able to do all things.
Islam. Qur'an 2.284
Never mind if the people are not intimidated by your [correct] authority. A mightier Authority will deal with them in the end.
Taoism. Tao Te Ching 72
For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done.
Christianity. Bible, Matthew 16.27
Ovambo Proverb: Cf. Yoruba Song, p. 701; Igbo Consecration, p. 769. Jeremiah 17.10: Cf. Hebrews 4.12-13, p. 110. Qur'an 2.284: Cf. Qur'an 14.38, p. 109. God's attributes of justice and mercy are often in seeming contradiction; see Abot 3.19, p. 687; Rig Veda 7.86.1-4, p. 904. Matthew 16.27: Cf. Matthew 25.31-46, p. 990; 13.47-50, p. 1097.
Holy, then, did I recognize Thee, O Wise Lord. I perceived Thee foremost at the birth of life, When Thou didst endow acts and words with retribution: Bad unto bad, good blessing unto holy, Through Thy wisdom, at the final goal of life!
Zoroastrianism. Avesta, Yasna 43.5
Even if the wrong-doers had all that there is on earth, and as much more, in vain would they offer it for ransom from the pain of the penalty on the Day of Judgment, but something will confront them from God which they could never have counted upon! For the evils of their deeds will confront them, and they will be encircled by that at which they used to mock!
Islam. Qur'an 39.47-48
Upon that Day men shall issue in scatterings to see their works, And whoso has done an atom's weight of good shall see it, And whoso has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it.
Islam. Qur'an 99.6-8
And it is requisite with the justice of God that men should be judged according to their works; and if their works were good in this life, and the desires of their hearts were good, that they should also, in the last day, be restored unto that which is good.
And if their works are evil they shall be restored unto them for evil. Therefore, all things shall be restored to their proper order, every thing to its natural frame--mortality raised to immortality, corruption to incorruption--raised to endless happiness to inherit the kingdom of God, or to endless misery to inherit the kingdom of the devil, the one on one hand, the other on the other.
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Book of Mormon, Alma 41.3-4
Alike of you is he who conceals his speech, and he who proclaims it, he who hides himself in the night, and he who sallies forth by day; he has attendant angels, before him and behind him, watching over him by God's command.
Islam. Qur'an 13.10-11
Yasna 43.5: Cf. Yansa 48.4, p. 408. The 'final goal of life' will come at the Last Judgment--see Yasna 30.8-10, p. 1098. Qur'an 39.47-48: Cf. Qur'an 69.13-37, pp. 1098f. and similar passages on the last judgment. Qur'an 13.10-11: Cf. Qur'an 41.30-31, p. 368; 50.17-19, p. 347. Atharva Veda 4.16.4, p. 111, speaks of Varuna's 'envoys' who spy out the doings of men.
The Exalted One says, "There are no special doors for calamity and happiness [in men's lot]; they come as men themselves call them. Their recompenses follow good and evil as the shadow follows the substance." Accordingly, in heaven and earth there are spirits that take account of men's transgressions, and, according to the lightness or gravity of their offenses, take away from their term of life. When that term is curtailed, men become poor and reduced, and meet with many sorrows and afflictions. All people hate them; punishments and calamities attend them; good luck and occasions for felicitation shun them; evil stars send down misfortune on them. When their term of life is exhausted they die.
Taoism. Treatise on Response and Retribution 1-2
Treatise on Response and Retribution 1-2: In popular Chinese religion, the Spirit of the Hearth ascends to Heaven annually to report on the deeds which transpired in that family, at which time a determination is made on each individual's span of life; see Tract of the Quiet Way, p. 347. Compare Qur'an 39.42, p. 333; Igbo Consecration, p. 769.
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Death sentence to a Woman carried out in Texas!
by abiather inthe charge against her is that she lured a mentally disabled man under the pretext of marrying him, but tortured and killed him by kicking and beating him with belts.. when she was put to death wednesday, suzanne basso became the 14th woman to receive the death penalty since its reinstatement 38 years ago (it was the 510th execution in texas).
people accept this as deserving, because they know what has happened.. this makes it easy to accept principle of cause and effect (galatians 6:7) that says there is a cause for everything (whether perceptible or not).
it is simply impossible to know all the details of all the causes preceding an effect as people have several births.
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Death sentence to a Woman carried out in Texas!
by abiather inthe charge against her is that she lured a mentally disabled man under the pretext of marrying him, but tortured and killed him by kicking and beating him with belts.. when she was put to death wednesday, suzanne basso became the 14th woman to receive the death penalty since its reinstatement 38 years ago (it was the 510th execution in texas).
people accept this as deserving, because they know what has happened.. this makes it easy to accept principle of cause and effect (galatians 6:7) that says there is a cause for everything (whether perceptible or not).
it is simply impossible to know all the details of all the causes preceding an effect as people have several births.
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The charge against her is that she lured a mentally disabled man under the pretext of marrying him, but tortured and killed him by kicking and beating him with belts.
When she was put to death Wednesday, Suzanne Basso became the 14th woman to receive the death penalty since its reinstatement 38 years ago (It was the 510th execution in Texas). People accept this as deserving, because they know what has happened.
This makes it easy to accept Principle of Cause and Effect (Galatians 6:7) that says there is a cause for everything (whether perceptible or not). It is simply impossible to know all the details of all the causes preceding an effect as people have several births. (Ecclesiastes 12:7; Mathew 11:14) Action finds its consequences as water finds its level! It is simply INEXORABLE!!!
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There Is No Key To Happiness!
by abiather inreligions make it appear that there is a key to happiness and give the impression that they have the key, and enjoy people always look to them for happiness!.
interestingly, jesus meant there is no key to happiness, but it is the very nature of all human beings.
(luke 17:21) people like jws did not even translate this verse properly.
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I was only refering to books of well-known American psychiatrist Dr Brian Weiss and Canadian psychiatrist Joel Whitton and Joe Fisher, and some reference from the Bible.
It is my own way of putting things together, has nothing to do with any organization
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There Is No Key To Happiness!
by abiather inreligions make it appear that there is a key to happiness and give the impression that they have the key, and enjoy people always look to them for happiness!.
interestingly, jesus meant there is no key to happiness, but it is the very nature of all human beings.
(luke 17:21) people like jws did not even translate this verse properly.
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- Nobody in this world (where more than 50 million unborn babies are murdered in the name of parents’ convenience, who prefer to call the act abortion to murder) has the moral right to ask why children are born with disabilities.
- Read some books on past regression such as, "Many Lives Many Masters" written by American psychiatrist Dr Brian Weiss and a book called "Life Between Life", by Canadian psychiatrist Joel Whitton and Joe Fisher. Many have found direct link between present disabilities and past lives. For example, a person who destroyed another person’ eyes, thus caused blindness to him, is born blind in his next birth. “Eye for eye, tooth for tooth” is better understood here.
- Move to bigger picture. We all come FROM GOD, through parents, hence God is our only, and the real Father. If he permits one of his children to be born with disabilities, there should be sufficient reason behind—which others need not know.
- What we see is only a tip of the ice-berg; baby with disabilities are actually adult soul in a small body—yet a soul with endless past lives.
- Some of ancient Indian books of wisdom too speak on this subject. Once died, soul has enough time to see its own past life with all its details some of which were hidden while on earth, and rewind and to see repeatedly to his satisfaction. After that the soul, now fully convinced of its mistakes and faults, decides the suitable place and parents to work out its Karmic account, and take birth accordingly.
- Soul builds the body, taking raw materials from parents—mostly from mother. If the soul has decided to take a crippled body, it has many options—either build the body with disabilities as the need may be suitable to settle its karmic account, or choose a parents who suffer from deep negative emotion, or those who have extreme habits …
- Bible shows Jesus had pre-human existence, and is having now post-human existence. (John 5:24; 6:38, 62; 8:42; 13:1; 17:5) He was not an exception. Humans “RETURN” to their Heavenly Father after their death. (Ecclesiastes 12:7; Mark 12:26-27) and take rebirth if there is a purpose (Mathew 11:14). This happens without the approval of humans (Mathew 11:15)
- Remembrance of past lives is available in the ocean called sub-conscious mind. Such a big load need not be carried in the conscious mind. Because what is to be remembered is not details, but the basic tendency of a person—whether he is willing to treat all as his brothers and sisters or will he self-serving? Interestingly, the basic tendency of a person is very much discernible not only to the person, but also to the outsiders.
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If neighbor is an apostate!
by abiather in1) for the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: love your neighbor as yourself.
(galatians 5:14).
2) if you really keep the kingly law found in scripture, love your neighbor as yourself, you are doing right.
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1) “For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Galatians 5:14)
2) “If you really keep the Kingly law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right.” (James 2:8)
If JWs have a neighbor who has now become an apostate, on what ground will JWs break this command, which is called the Kingly Law?
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There Is No Key To Happiness!
by abiather inreligions make it appear that there is a key to happiness and give the impression that they have the key, and enjoy people always look to them for happiness!.
interestingly, jesus meant there is no key to happiness, but it is the very nature of all human beings.
(luke 17:21) people like jws did not even translate this verse properly.
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I took this as scientists experiment after some assumption, and found amazing result. You may go ahead and practice. First experience will be this: You will not feel elated when praised nor depressed when snubbed/insulted by others. Because you know who you are. Besides, when you are relaxed, you are more powerful, sharp and wiser. That is good a premise to start with.
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Theism Makes Science Impossible
by cofty init is not impossible to be a great scientist and a theist - kenneth miller and francis collins are good examples.. however, science depends on methodological naturalism - a working assumption that there are natural causes for observed effects.
please note that methodological naturalism is not the same as ontological naturalism.
in other words scientists may believe in a spirit world or not as long as god is never invoked as an answer.. contrast this with theism which, unlike deism, declares god to be immanent and active in the world.. consider a scientist who is also a theist doing research into the efficacy of a new drug that cures heart disease.
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Actually, God has no part in the world-affairs, because he has everything to the automatic mechanism called Law of Cause and Effect, which is omnipresent, impartial, immutable, inexorable and impeccable!
Because man is endowed the knowledge, will-power, and ability, and has an ocean of experience to correct/fine-tune his future actions.
Yet people blame God for being inactive or think he is non-existent! If humans simply avoid all the wastages, everyone on earth can live like kings in palaces!!!