Posts by abiather

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would jehovah find himself disfellowshipped?

by sowhatnow in

so lets assume that the current jw use of disfellowshipping was used back in jesus day, .

who of the bible characters would find themselves disfellowshipped?

jehovah?

abiather

Sowhatnow,

very interesting post--and its ABSOLUTELY true

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

LoveUniHateExams,

[Kunti is the name of Arjun's mother. He is often addressed as Son of Kunit]

You can use google search engine for reincarnation proof..

You don't need proof. It is based on Galatians 6:7, our own experience and reason, and also science (every action has equal and opposite reaction). If one could not reap in this birth, it will happen in any of the future births.

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

LoveUniHatexams

Eastern Scripture (Gita) says those people who repeatedly show beastly characteristics take births as beasts with their attendant problems and diseases:

Bhagavat Gita 16:18-20: "Having taken refuge in false ego, personal strength, arrogance, desire and anger, these malicious people detest Me even within their own bodies or within others.
I dispatch such enemies of mankind, lowest among mankind, into material existence where they perpetually enter into inauspicious demonic wombs.
After entering into demonic wombs through repeated births without achieving Me, the foolish eventually go to the vilest destination [literally lower beings]."

Thus no injustice happens--everything happens according to people's choice:

Gita 14:18: "Those who choose to abide in the quality of goodness are elevated, those who choose to abide in the quality of passion dwell in the middle and those who choose to abide in the quality of ignorance, the basest of all material qualities, are degraded.

In other words, there is sufficient reason behind everything which may be perceptible or imperceptible for others.

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

LoveUniHateExams,

I did deal with animal question when I said when humans changed into egoistic ways and divisiveness, it was reflected in animal behaviour also--with the attendant problems and diseases among them too. When humans return to one world one family concept, animal behaviour also will change. That's why virtually all religions have one thing in common--there was a good time in the beginning, and there will be good time again!

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

LoveUniHateExams

You say: “But animals suffer from cancer, too. This is not 'amazing'. It is sick.”

In our observation, there is answer to all questions. Be an objective observer—you will find one thing leading to another which in turn lead to another—there is nothing called good or bad, but just consequences. If you are a keen observer even into subtle areas, then you know that your thoughts and emotions travel faster and more powerful than your words. When someone is angry with you, you can sense it even without he expresses it through some ways visible or invisible. That means everything is connected, it’s just one whole. All cultures and religions retain the memory of a golden age that once existed here on earth. That time, it was like one world, one family—with peace even among animals. When man turned egoistic, divisive … positive environment changed accordingly, even among the animals leading into the present situation as you described. This will again change into previous glory in its own time—it is a cycle like day and night, or like seasons. Yet you may have heard people asking:

• How is it possible for God to allow so much suffering in the world?

• Oh my God! For how long do I have to endure this experience?

• There is so much injustice in this world. ‘Good’ people get to suffer and ‘bad’ people get to enjoy life!

• The above phrases are very common nowadays. Atheists usually like phrase #1.

• Unconscious people number 2.

• The last one is usually uttered by ‘moralists in pain.’

When the perception we have about the world is of continuous suffering and pain, our minds become sick and mental diseases will arrive at one point or another. Too much emotional pain is unbearable and the mind protects itself by disconnecting from a painful ‘reality’. That is why it is important to learn the art of ‘enjoyment.’ The location of your consciousness will bring you an experience. For example, if my consciousness is located in anger, the experiences which are simple consequences of my deeds, will be perceived as ‘bad.’ Anger brings further animosity. Anger cannot bring love as a consequence.

John was angry with his son Paul. John went into a fight with his son and decided to expel Paul from his house. Consequently, Mary (Paul’s mother) became upset with John and because she missed Paul so much, she became very ill. John felt guilty. Even though he knew that his son didn’t act correctly in his house. John felt bad because he thought that he was the cause of Mary’s disease. Paul developed greater animosity towards his father. He did not want to see John ever again. Do you see the consequences of the location of John’s consciousness? Is this consequence ‘good or bad’?

It is neither. It is just a consequence, which will bring a different set of consequences to different beings. Those consequences will return to the ones involved. There are no victims. I can hear you saying: This is known as the law of karma. You are not telling me anything new!

There is neither ‘bad’ karma nor ‘good' karma; just consequences!. Isn’t this new?

Come on, Isn’t this consequence ‘bad’ for John?

No, if he learns about his anger from this experience. Otherwise, how is he going to learn? By reading a book? Or by listening to the talk of a guru? Not a chance.

But… What about Mary? You may ask. She is innocent but yet suffering the consequences… Well… Mary had to go through that experience to learn about attachment. How is she going to learn that? By listening to a class on attachment? Or by praying to God? She learns by being aware, conscious of her own actions/ feelings/ emotions.

Now, we could attempt to answer the questions from above:

Q: How is it possible for God to allow so much suffering in the world?

A: Do you expect God to stop you from doing something that you want to do? You have the consequences to deal with. Do you think that God has to bail you out? How are you going to learn then? And because many people in many places do not care about what they do in life… then you have the consequence, that is, what you perceive as suffering now. Simple math! It has nothing to do with God.

Q: Oh my God! For how long do I have to endure this experience?

A: As long as it takes you to give up your stubbornness of operating in the same way in life… It will be the same experience until you get tired of it, until you relinquish your old ways. Then obviously, the consequence will change.

Q: There is so much injustice in this world. “Good” people get to suffer and “bad” people get to enjoy life!

There are neither ‘good people’ nor ‘bad people’. There are merely consequences of our own actions. A so-called ‘Good person’ now could have been a tyrant before. When he decided to turn into “good” then obviously, he had some debts to pay from previous deeds which are neither “good nor bad.” Just consequences.

The experience of the consequences of our actions, will give a clue about our location of consciousness. Different location means a different experience. To wake up in life means to be aware of our own location of consciousness.

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

LoveUniHateExams, Yes, you took it out of my mouth correctly.

Our universe is amazing! Our body too (which is a universe in miniature) is amazing. And we know that to make it possible for life to exist, special physical laws are required in advance. Neither we nor our parents came to this earth as astronauts went to the moon carrying life-sustaining things which are not available in the moon! When humans found themselves in earth, it was in an-already-prepared condition for humans to live and to enjoy the life! In other words, earth has been intelligently planned.

Some people do not realize that science, like religion, requires faith. We make so many assumptions. We believe that the laws of physics are reliable [which is a kind of faith]. We create experiments that can test and verify these laws. If we follow the same scientific practice, then we will have to say God initiated the universe, He created it. Science attempts to understand how the universe works. Religion attempts to understand the purpose and meaning of the universe. It’s like studying and analyzing the parts of a vehicle, and explaining how it works (something science does), and saying the purpose of vehicle is for us to travel (something religion does).

Science has its inconsistencies [for example, even General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not consistent with each other, yet, we think each one of them is correct], just as religion has its puzzles, too. Science cannot point where in our body the “I” exists, it can only see chemicals and its various combinations, and doesn't allow free will; yet, we think we have free will. We have to learn to accept inconsistencies in both science and religion. The more we understand about the two, the greater the possibility of bringing the two streams of thought closer together. in religion, there is the subject of revelations. But revelations happen in science, too, except that a revelation is not called a revelation [which may be called an idea, a flash of genius, a new creation …etc]. “When the idea for the laser came to me, I was sitting on a park bench, thinking . . . why haven't I been able to do this? Suddenly, I got this new idea,” says Nobel laureate Charles Townes who invented the Maser and co-invented the Laser.

No wonder many believe there is a spiritual presence in the universe, though it is difficult to define God. Skeptics would ask, if God created the universe, who created God? So there's always that problem with a beginning. We don’t know the answer! This does not strengthen the view of atheists. Just because we don't know, it doesn’t mean “it can't be.” Just because we don't know, it means we don't know—that’s all!

No wonder Albert Einstein said: "I'm not an atheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations."

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Man is designed to be God-oriented, shows new scientific study!

by abiather in

meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study.

(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html).

when we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body.

abiather

Meditation slows age-related loss of grey matter in the brain, finds a new study. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205142951.htm) (see also http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/10/health/can-meditation-really-slow-aging/index.html)

When we eat certain type of food, it shows how it affects our body. If it makes us healthy and even healthier, it means we are designed for that sort of food. Similarly, thinking is like food for the mind. Thinking affects our life.

1) If we think that we are here by chance, then we begin to feel separated and more important than others, and begin to assert things in favor of us. In such thinking pattern, our desires becomes intense, and turn into anger (if desire is met with obstruction) and greed (if desire is fulfilled). In either situation we are not happy, it will be reflected badly in our physical health too.

2) A person who is in the habit of meditation go about relaxing his body, withdrawing his attention from everything around him, including his body, viewing himself as pure consciousness (or as immaterial being just like his source) affirming himself to be the embodiment of lofty qualities such as peace, love, compassion (which stem from the conviction that all are made of same substance). This awareness continues even when he engages in other activities of the day. In such thinking pattern, his desires do not become intense, and hence will not turn into anger (if desire is met with obstruction) and nor into greed (if desire is fulfilled). He is equipoised—does not feel elated over the pleasant happenings nor troubled over the unpleasant happenings. In either situation he is alike, and he is never stressed, but in harmony with his body and mind. Such people have less age-related atrophy in the brain's white matter (because their God-oriented attitude appears to help preserve the brain's grey matter, the tissue that contains neurons. The scientists looked specifically at the association between age and grey matter. They compared 50 people who had mediated for years and 50 who didn't. People in both groups showed a loss of grey matter as they aged. But the researchers found among those who meditated, the volume of grey matter did not decline as much as it did among those who didn't. Researchers were surprised by the magnitude of the difference. “We observed a widespread effect of meditation that encompassed regions throughout the entire brain,“ he said.

No wonder we are called human beings! Human refers to the physical aspect whereas Being points to the more important aspect, the immaterial substance. We say—my hand, my leg and my brain—all of which the “I” possess, yet the scientific tools cannot locate this “I” in our body. The only thing we can do is to declare that a person is dead when that "immaterial I" LEAVES his body, taking with it all the features such as ingenuity, power of reason ... etc!

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

abiather

Ransom Sacrifice is foreign to the OT: "Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin."--Deutronomy 24:16. If OT God has not thought about it (Jeremiah 7:31 & 19:5), it did originate from the apostate writers.

Jesus too had no idea about a ransom sacrifice he was supposed to render (Compare Mathew 12:35-37; and Mather 23:12)

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JW. Net heals a JW Physician and his patient!

by abiather in

i met a jw physician last month, by chance, in a waiting lounge!

i moved to the seat next to him and asked him: are you one of jws?.

surprised, he responded: i was, till last year.

abiather

cofty,

You got it—I post something “strange!”

When such things as this which really works for people with no cost at all, many doctors prescribe some chemicals.

i remember reading somewhere, the person had been suffering from ring worm; and doctor prescribed some tablet to be taken every three months. And he did this for 12 years--it kills the worm, but not its eggs. Thu problem persists.

One day another doctor said something different from what he learned from his experience, not from his curriculum: "do enema with neem-juice water." He did that, and worm problem of his stomach is gone forever.

My point is that there are two types of Doctors:

1) Those who treat for money

2) Those who really want their patient to be cured forever.

This is the irony:

Doctors will go out of business if there are no patients;

Lawyers will go unemployed if there are no crimes and conflicts!

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JW. Net heals a JW Physician and his patient!

by abiather in

i met a jw physician last month, by chance, in a waiting lounge!

i moved to the seat next to him and asked him: are you one of jws?.

surprised, he responded: i was, till last year.

abiather

Galaxie,

Rather it is easier than mathematics--just knowing What,how, how much and when to eat. It really worked--I am saving now 30 minutes daily!