You agreed in principle that Atheism is a means to theism.
You only want beach to be replaced with fairy-land.
DONE!
abiather
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Why does Organic Chemistry prove God's exists?
by KateWild inso bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
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Why does Organic Chemistry prove God's exists?
by KateWild inso bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
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abiather
Your reasoning is innocent!
In vocabulary only atheists and theists are different. In truth, atheism is a means to theism.
It is like someone asking you the way to the beach. You tell him to turn right. But the person wants to go straight. You don’t get distressed over his choice as you know that there is a dead-end on that straight road, and this person has to come back and take the way you pointed out.
Some time or other, an atheist will meet dead-end. It is like something that happened to Bill Gates in modern times and Buddha in ancient times. No one could have even dreamt that one day they would meet a dead-end and take a totally different course in their lives!
YET, they DID!
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JW ban on blood-transfusion is hung upon nothing!
by abiather inif the blood of a perfect man could be used for saving man eternally,.
why cant the blood of an imperfect human be used for saving man temporarily?.
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abiather
What a coincidence! I read your post on Feb 19, 2013 JUST NOW! I had never read it before! Yet same thought crossed our minds. Same Thoughts, yet, differ only in presentation.
Thank you for that REVOLUTIONARY thought you struck long back!
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JW ban on blood-transfusion is hung upon nothing!
by abiather inif the blood of a perfect man could be used for saving man eternally,.
why cant the blood of an imperfect human be used for saving man temporarily?.
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If the blood of a perfect man could be used for saving man eternally,
why can’t the blood of an imperfect human be used for saving man temporarily?
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A New Recipe!
by abiather inhere's a recipe to make every interaction count:.
2 heaped cups of patience.
1 head of thoughtfulness.
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abiather
Here's a recipe to make every interaction count:
2 heaped cups of patience
1 head of thoughtfulness
Sprinkle with 1 heart full of love
Add a pinch of humor
Mix well and serve with a smile to everyone you meet, and enjoy the DIFFERENCE! -
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New World will comewith or without JWs!
by abiather inwe know how animalistic religion can become if we have a look at those religions which had political powers!
they simply executed anyone with a differing opinion.
you dont need any religion.
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abiather
I am not trying to prove anything. I am just trying to spur your thoughts/imagination. When I heard this for the first time, I had a different type of spurring—I thought wow, If a caterpillar can become a butterfly, why can’t I, the fleshly, become a spiritual person? That gave me the confidence in contrast to the "what a miserable I am" attitude of Paul. (Romans 7:24)
Please read this information about lost Atlantis, and see whether you will have some spurring in your mind:
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New World will comewith or without JWs!
by abiather inwe know how animalistic religion can become if we have a look at those religions which had political powers!
they simply executed anyone with a differing opinion.
you dont need any religion.
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abiather
What I posted is meant for JWs (not for ex-JWs).
This is the information that helped a very zealous JW to come out. FORTUNATELY, he had a science back-ground. What he originally got was a very detailed version to suit his stature. What I posted is a translated summary.
You would note that in the beginning of the article, I said:
“Religions are animalistic and You don’t need any religion. You only need a little bit of science!”
Article ended making a call to turn to proven science, which is also a history before us:
“Because it’s pure science: generation—growth—decay—then regeneration.”
The only mistake I did was that to give a supplementary proof, I quoted the Bible: “It has been happening and will be happening. (Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10)” which may have given the impression that I belong to some Christian Church who are in need of alalogy—I am sorry for that! I have no religion.
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New World will comewith or without JWs!
by abiather inwe know how animalistic religion can become if we have a look at those religions which had political powers!
they simply executed anyone with a differing opinion.
you dont need any religion.
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We know how animalistic religion can become if we have a look at those religions which had political powers! They simply executed anyone with a differing opinion. You don’t need any religion. You only need a little bit of science!
Have a look at the process in Biology called METAMORPHOSIS through which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly!
The caterpillar is like a worm (like present greed-ridden world)
The butterfly is very beautiful (like the new world of contentment)
What brings the transformation? This is what happens: At some stage of its development, the caterpillar becomes very greedy, it starts to consume more than its need (like the present world’s motto—maximum production and maximum consumption even by borrowing which even calls for frequent Federal Shutdown). When consumption exceeds its metabolic needs, its body starts to die and starts to liquefy. But within the body of the caterpillar there are a few cells—which the Scientists refer to as imaginal cells. These imaginal cells are literally dreaming a new reality. (They are like those who have developed a distaste towards pleasures of this world—whether they are materially rich or not—Mathew 5:3)
These cells vibrate in a different frequency of consciousness. When caterpillar’s body recognizes these imaginal cells, the immune cells of the caterpillar attack them. But the imaginal cells remain immune to the onslaught as they vibrate at a different frequency. Soon the immune cells give up, and the imaginal cells start to gather in small clusters. Then something else happens—the clusters of cells start to connect with each other. When connectivity of these imaginal cells reaches a critical level, SOMETHING MAGICAL HAPPEN! A gene, the genetic code that was lying dormant in the caterpillar, wakes up, and in that genetic code is the information for wings, information for a new heart, information for the antennas, information for legs and information for a new metabolic rate (metabolism of flying creatures has to be different from that of a worm).
The imaginal cells start using the dying matter of the caterpillar as a nutritive soup; it becomes the culture medium the imaginal cells use to grow and to connect; and soon the butterfly emerges with the flight to FREEDOM! So will be with this old world, from which a New World will emerge.
What is the proof? When you plant a tiny mustard seed, what happens is history—some invisible force comes to make it sprout, grow and bear seeds. The same force has been active, and will be active to make the new world sprout, grow and bear fruits!
This old world will become New World—with or without the preaching of JWs. Because it’s pure science: generation—growth—decay—then regeneration. It has been happening and will be happening. (Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10) JWs are simply wasting their time preaching to hate the caterpillar and to work for the butterfly!
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Can Spirit-Directed Organization Lie?
by abiather inwhen god says something, it is like the meaning of traffic signal: red light means always stop.. when spirit-directed organization says something, it is like shining ever brighter till the full light of day, (proverb 4:18) and then it becomes dimmer and dimmer and at the end of the day darker and darkest, .
thus red lights meaning becomes start!.
yes, a spirit-directed organization can lie.
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abiather
JWs organization is spirit-directed organization; yet that spirit is not of God.
Proof is that God never CORRECTS his own teaching (Numbers 23:19; Malachi 3:6; Lamentation 3:22, 23; James 1:17; Hebrew 13:8), and it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to change His teaching (Rev 1:8; Hebrew 6:18) but the spirit that directs JWs organization does change teachings.
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LOL, this will freak you out
by transhuman68 inive been cruising the net in search of the meaning of life (lol- as if!
) and came across this amazing piece of writing that i think puts everything in perspective... .
at first, when you really get that nothing matters at all it's very depressing.
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abiather
Thank you for posting that, transhuman68
I read it (NOTHING MATTERS, BY jim sloman) completely, very nice musing!
I liked: “Paradoxically, when we see clearly the emptiness and meaninglessness and insignificance of everything, including our own life, after passing through the "emptiness of emptiness" there comes A LIGHT HEART, which contains both a smile and a tear… If nothing matters, we're free not to take it all so seriously.”
Yet unwittingly he touches on the purpose of life. He says: “If we jump off a building we're still going to go splat, no matter what we may or may not have realized. If we stub our toe, it's still going to hurt. If we eat a lot of fat, we're still likely to develop heart disease or cancer. The laws of life are not repealed.”
Actually, we are not asking what is the purpose of life? rather we are being asked that question by life. For example, when we are moderate in our habits such as sleeping, eating, working, entertainments and thinking, our bodies respond pleasantly. If one is not moderate with regard to those habits, his body starts giving trouble—with its organs malfunctioning, or even simply shutting down! All these go to show that one’s physical body is designed to serve a purpose. One can drive it towards comfort or calamity—it all depends on the choices one makes! Hence existence is asking you: What are doing with your life? Are you driving it towards comfor or calamity?
Again, see what happens when we refuse to think negatively about others, but are determined to see their good and send good wishes to them deep from our hearts, we attract good to us—life becomes smooth! What if when we actually help someone—how does it change our life? This we will know only when we really give—we will really feel happier than receiving. (Acts 20:35)
If we move from basement and climb higher realms of consciousness, even up to God-consciousness and unity-consciousness, life will become more and more meaningful! You will feel like Jesus who said: ‘though I am in this world, I am not of it,’—something like a super-sensuous joy!