Shocked? You should be shocked about morrocan authorities that prohibit preaching by christians of any denomination. In WWII overhere in europe JW's also used other names to evade the Nazis. Does that shock you too?
Posts by emeth
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14Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?
by dropoffyourkeylee ini had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.
i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.
this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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emeth
With all respect Stand for Pure Worship if you continue to the discussion you have here on this forum you have a poor spiritual outlook too.
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Donating to charities discouraged by the WT
by lambsbottom inhi everyone,.
im trying to find articles from the wt and awake that show when the writers are discouraging charity work or giving.
from any books would be good also..
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emeth
they have a balanced approach .. the following is taken from awake article
*** g93 6/8 pp. 26-27 Charitable Contributions—A Christian Obligation? ***
Giving—Yes and No
To be sure, the Bible’s counsel is to be kind and generous toward those in need. From ancient times God’s people have been encouraged to “be liberal, ready to share.” (1 Timothy 6:18; Deuteronomy 15:7, 10, 11) In fact, Christians are told at 1 John 3:17: “Whoever has this world’s means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of God remain in him?”
Give, yes; but beware! We are regularly bombarded by charities, religions, and annual community-service campaigns; most make compelling appeals. However, in evaluating them it is good to remember the Bible proverb: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” (Proverbs 14:15) In other words, beware of accepting the claims or promises of charities at face value. How is the collected money really used? Are the organizations funded those that a Christian should support? Are their activities political, nationalistic, or connected with false religion? Is the avowed purpose practical and not in conflict with Scriptural principles?
Some charities are able to do much good for people in need. When affected by natural disasters or catastrophic illness, many times Christians themselves have received benefits from such charities. Other charities, though, have high administrative costs or high fund-raising costs, with the result that only a small portion of the money collected is actually used for the advertised purpose. For example, a recent survey of 117 of the United States’ largest nonprofit organizations, including charities, found that more than a quarter of them pay their top executives a yearly salary of $200,000 or more. Audits often reveal expenditures for luxury items and the financing of an opulent life-style. Regardless of the name of the charity, it would take a long stretch of the imagination to believe that contributing to such schemes would fulfill the Bible’s command to help those in need.
A Balanced ViewThough no one wants to waste his money—or worse, see it used to line the pockets of self-serving men—there is also the need to guard against becoming cynical in the matter of giving. Do not use the inefficiency or even the dishonesty of some “charities” as an excuse to look down on needy ones or to squelch feelings of compassion. Proverbs 3:27, 28 counsels: “Do not hold back good from those to whom it is owing, when it happens to be in the power of your hand to do it. Do not say to your fellowman: ‘Go, and come back and tomorrow I shall give,’ when there is something with you.” (Compare 1 John 3:18.) Do not assume that all organized charities are either wasteful or fraudulent. Examine the facts, then make a personal decision whether to give or not.
Many prefer to help by personal, direct gifts to needy individuals and families. Thus, the givers are sure of the practical, immediate use to which their contributions can be put. This also provides opportunity to upbuild and express kindness in words as well as deeds. Even if you do not have much to give materially, you can still have the joy of giving. Next time you hear of a genuine need for such help, give what you can in the spirit of 2 Corinthians 8:12: “If the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”
Have in mind, too, that sometimes what may do the most good is something other than money. Jesus told his followers to “go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ . . . You received free, give free.” (Matthew 10:7, 8) Similarly today, Christians realize that the time, energy, and money spent in supporting Kingdom witnessing—which improves lives and gives hope—is charitable giving of the best kind.
The Bible’s view, then, is to be kind, generous, and practical. It reminds us that material help is often needed, and the need should not be ignored. At the same time do not feel obligated to give to any and all who may solicit your money. Consider how best to use the money you have so as to please God and to give the greatest practical help to your own family and to your fellowman. (1 Timothy 5:8; James 2:15, 16) Imitate Jesus in being observant of and responsive to the needs of others—spiritually and materially. In the words of Hebrews 13:16: “Do not forget the doing of good and the sharing of things with others, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”Now i log out. Have a nice evening
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"Building 1.5 Million Square Feet in 4 Years will NOT Happen Without Jehovah's Spirit"
by Yan Bibiyan ina quote from the latest jw video pimping the warwick project.
link below, quote @7:30 mark.. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/.
i call bullshit!.
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emeth
building a dike to protect your own home when facing a calamity ... a dike that only takes up a few days or at most a few weeks of their time is also a case of comparing apples with peaches. Try to get them working for years when there is no benefit in it for themselves,.. no calamity that forces them. It wont work,... but the spirit of Jehovah does just that, and he does it all around the world.
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Donating to charities discouraged by the WT
by lambsbottom inhi everyone,.
im trying to find articles from the wt and awake that show when the writers are discouraging charity work or giving.
from any books would be good also..
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emeth
as a matter a fact they dont discourage it..
see for example
the article from Awake 6/8 1993 The Bible’s Viewpoint
Charitable Contributions—A Christian Obligation?
orthe article from the watchtower 6/1 2003
Giving That Pleases God
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"Building 1.5 Million Square Feet in 4 Years will NOT Happen Without Jehovah's Spirit"
by Yan Bibiyan ina quote from the latest jw video pimping the warwick project.
link below, quote @7:30 mark.. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/.
i call bullshit!.
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emeth
I know that tv show... but i think that is comparing apples with peaches. That said,.. i do not care if someone agrees or not agree on Jehovah's spirit being involved... i just point out why Jehovah's Witnesses think it is involved.
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"Building 1.5 Million Square Feet in 4 Years will NOT Happen Without Jehovah's Spirit"
by Yan Bibiyan ina quote from the latest jw video pimping the warwick project.
link below, quote @7:30 mark.. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/.
i call bullshit!.
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emeth
In the video and in the written introduction of the video on the website www.jw.org the voluteers are emphasised.
This is what is written as introduction
A new world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses is under construction in Warwick, New York. An aggressive construction schedule is being supported largely by volunteer workers from all over the United States. They do this willingly, industriously, without pay, and they view their contribution as a gift to God. Watch this unique crew accomplish great things!
That is the thing that only can be done with Jehovah's spirit, according to the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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"Building 1.5 Million Square Feet in 4 Years will NOT Happen Without Jehovah's Spirit"
by Yan Bibiyan ina quote from the latest jw video pimping the warwick project.
link below, quote @7:30 mark.. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/.
i call bullshit!.
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emeth
You can all come up with examples of certain buildings counting many square metres and short period of time... but none of these buildings were made by hundreds ,if not thousands, of volunteers.
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Finding Faith
by andrew.riener ini went to a few jw meetings and talked to some of them and had a few bible studies but stopped going and just returned everything after pressure from my family.
i am thinking of going back but any advise on how i should do it?.
i also had a question regarding the jw faith.
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emeth
wrong site andrew riener... here you only find people that tell you to run run run far from the Jehovah's Witnesses. You better go to the Kingdom Hall,. and leave this site for what it is. That is my kind and sincere advise
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"Building 1.5 Million Square Feet in 4 Years will NOT Happen Without Jehovah's Spirit"
by Yan Bibiyan ina quote from the latest jw video pimping the warwick project.
link below, quote @7:30 mark.. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/.
i call bullshit!.
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emeth
without Jehovah's spirit you would not have hundreds of volunteers building a project like this over a period of 4 years.