the bookstudy is now integrated in the service meeting,.. worldwide
Posts by emeth
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11Are book studies still going on outside the USA?
by L3G intruthseeker's fine thread got me thinking.
there are plenty of forum members from europe, australia, and latin america here.
did the book study in publishers' homes end a few years ago at the time, or near the time, that it did in america?
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Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?
by truthseeker init took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
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emeth
@DD talk to you all in 10 years from now.. incase this forum is still up. Anyway JW's will still be there at that time.
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Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?
by truthseeker init took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
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emeth
@alphaman dream on .. keep repeating your own fairytales. In answer to your last question i can answer.. several hundreds of thousands a year
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Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?
by truthseeker init took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
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emeth
@alphaman... please do the math, the vast majority cant be kids.
there are 7.9 million publishers and 9.2 million biblestudies. average population growth is 1.2% -- The nr of biblestudies did rise with 500,000 in just one year (2013)
Those 500.000 extra biblestudies in a year cant be their children due to population growth figures,... and the fact that a lot of those 8 million JW's do not have kids or cant get kids anymore (for example because of their age)
also what you say about the nr of them leaving is complete non sense and contradicts your statement you made before when you said that the vast majority of those studying are kids, since the nr of JW's is growing every year with about 200-300,000 a year.
You talk bat shit crazy shit
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Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?
by truthseeker init took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
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emeth
@nonjwspouse
seeing one congregation merging with another and then thinking you can explain how things are in all developed countries of the world does not make sense. Whatever your personal experience or knowledge is.. it never says anything about the overall situation on national and international levels.
anyway all you have said does not take away the fact that on this forum several topics can be found (dating 10 or more years back) that predicted a serious downfall or even the end of Jehovah's Witnesses by now. But the fact is there are many more congregations, publishers biblestudies etc etc.
Als your argument of changed requirements is not relevant and does not take away the fact that every year the number of publishers is growing more than 200,000 a year. Changed requirements would cause a new peak in the year things changed but would not be responsible for a sustained yearly growth of more than 200,000
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Hardcore JW Friend Predicts the End of the Organization within 10 years.
by kneehighmiah inhad a conversation with an aspiring elder.
he said the end must be close because people are so discouraged that the organization can't last more than 10 years.
this is before we received the please come to the international convention letter.
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emeth
@Sir82 i think 8,5 million will be reached in 2016 9,2 milllion in 2020, 10 milllion in 2024
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Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?
by truthseeker init took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
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emeth
guys look it up on this forum ... there are threads from 10 or more years back that said and predicted the same. In the meantime the witnesses added millions of extra publishers. Even in secular western countries their number remained the same or showed growth.
the last 2 years they even started to emphasize on their website & use of the internet and leading people towards it. They managed to draw a million visitors a day to JW.ORG and with the august 2014 event in mind we can be sure that that nr of unique visitors per day will grow.
look for example to the growth of bible studies
in 2011 8,490,746
in 2012 8,759,988
in 2013 9,254,963
that means that they added about 500,000 biblestudies in the year 2013. That is about 100% more than the number of biblestudents added during 2012
i am sure that they keep growing and that the internet wont change that ,. even not for a bit
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Hardcore JW Friend Predicts the End of the Organization within 10 years.
by kneehighmiah inhad a conversation with an aspiring elder.
he said the end must be close because people are so discouraged that the organization can't last more than 10 years.
this is before we received the please come to the international convention letter.
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emeth
Only two options...
1. in ten years time the world as we know it is ending or has ended
2. Jehovah's Witnesses added at least 2 million more publishers to their ranks
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"We have NO idea how many in our congregation were baptized last year."
by NeverKnew inwas i lied to?.
are the members of a congregation even mildly aware of how many people who belong to their very own congregation were recently baptized?
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emeth
Elders always do know exactly who is baptised within the last 12 months since they visit each of those after one year... sheperd visit
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ATMs in assembly halls
by Xanthippe ini only heard about these atms last year on this forum.
the poster seemed to be saying they are for donating only, is that correct?
absolutely gobsmacked over this, don't the brothers see any correlation between this and the likes of jimmy swaggart?
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emeth
@DOC if an article is talking about payments in Italian Lire's it would not be relevant too (since that currency does not exist anymore) , that is what i meant.
40 years ago the world and average household did not pay with plastic. Now every household does.