Welcome to JWN lurkernomore,
Have you and your wife read Crisis of Conscience, by Ray Franz yet? Hope to hear your full story. Kate xx
i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).
as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.
around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.
Welcome to JWN lurkernomore,
Have you and your wife read Crisis of Conscience, by Ray Franz yet? Hope to hear your full story. Kate xx
i just wanted to share the good news that wednesday was the last day of my summer teaching internship.
i had a great time with the kids-- they were ready to learn, be challenged and have fun.
and this was summer school!
Looks like you have overcome your challenges, well done you are an inspiration. Congratulations. Kate xx
i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.
i was doing ok until about a month ago.
we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.
I know they wont speak to me after, but most hardly do anyway, away from the hall. I guess being a single brother and kind of new. -justme67
Hi Just, welcome to the board. It refreshing to see TTATT, the truth about the truth. We wish you all the best for the future, but stick around here to get friendship and support.
I am surprised a new single brother doesn't get more attention in the KH, normally they are a comodity. Sisters flock round them like bees around pollunating flowers, there must be a hand full of sisters your age that have been left on the shelf, I know in my hall there are a few, and in the circuit even more. But if you're making a move out you want to meet a girl out of WT too.
Kate xx
a hypothetical question.. at a minimum, what evidence would it take to prove that the society is trying to quietly shed publishers?.
now, i don't think we have evidence of this yet but that doesn't mean it could never happen.
we must consider where the trends of magazine/literature cuts, branch office sales, coerced contributions, bethel/do layoffs, and emphasis on jw.org lead us.. otoh, you might argue that there would never be a deliberate move to get rid of them, just moves that discreetly abandon them.
A watcher you have missed the point and gone off topic.
Good observation Metatron, they very well might be reducing numbers and DFing more easily and making the RI process more difficult. IMO personally I think it's because there are too many relishing in the power of being an elder, and enjoying causing misery to others.
Kate xx
about a month ago, i realized that i didn't really care about my still-in jw family.
i just want to be left alone by them.
they caused me so much grief.
Thank you for your experience, you don't seem resentful. You seem stable and made a decision not to be taken advantage of anymore. Keep your money for yourself and your kids. Kate xx
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
We have 53 pioneers for Aug.....Kate xx
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
Well how you feeling Stuck? R u ok?
Sadly you are being controlled but playing by your rules. Keep strong and have fun every day. Kate xx
i seriously don't get it.. some people truly hate`jews.. and it's not just jews.... gays, christians, blacks, mexicans, etc.
are on the list.. intolerance is a terrible thing..
The Orthodox believe they must make conditions right for the coming of Moshiach (the Messiah) and the current Israeli government does not meet their conditions.- designs
This is the single most biggest problem (if that's even a phrase). Israeli politics is run by Religious nuts............that's why Einstein could have turned down the presidency. All children aged 18 must go to war except on religious grounds, but it's the religious nuts that impose the law of national service. Barmey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are hardly any Chassidick Jews in Israel compared to normal tax paying Israeli's, how this can be run as a religious state with an army of kids baffles me. Some of these 18 yr olds are American, British an Australian Jews, coming over to do national service then going back to their own countries.
Kate xx
new article on ajwrb:.
http://ajwrb.org/medicine/questions-for-those-who-believe-in-the-watcthower-blood-policy.
lee.
Interesting find, well done. Kate xx
ok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.. on our way back from th international convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.. so i took a few days and thought about it.
it seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.. today i gave her a proposal- i will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.. we will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.. we will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests.
i will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it.
Very logical idea. But these are heated emotional arguments. Lets hope they dissipate now you have made your logical agreement. Did you talk about your physical relationship? This can sometimes draw marriage mates closer and remind them of fun times.
Next Firday take your wife out for a nice meal and seduce her. It will be fun putting some extra spice into your marriage.
Kate xx