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  Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
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  atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

  jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

  interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

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  KateWild

  So how do you account for beauty & pleasure?- cofty

  The universe is mathematically perfect but it looks pleasureable and beautiful too, it also is dangerous to life forms in some ways.

  Good point, the way I see it is in guided processes and evolution. God as the creator is the spark, beauty and pleasure are the result of guided processes, suffering and deformaties are a result of evolution left to it's own devices in unguided formations of nature. Similar to wear and tear of manmade objects. Eventually there will be a flaw in the process.

  Beauty and pleasure are also in the eye of the beholder, not everyone see's beauty and pleasure the same. It boils down to taste. Likes and dislikes.

  This is all my own philosophy of beauty and pleasure, nothing factual.

  Kate xx
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  It's my 25th yr anniversary of freedom

  by rebel8 in

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  approximately 25 yrs ago today, i left the borg forever.. .

  thank you jwn/jwd for helping me heal by listening to me.

  there are not many greater gifts than freedom..

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  KateWild

  Well done Rebel and thanks for all your support. Keep up the good work. Kate xx
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  Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

  jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

  interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

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  KateWild

  It does prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the god of christian theism, the god and father of Jesus christ, does not exist.-cofty

  JWs and many theists would answer it just proves that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one Satan. 1John 5:19. IMO this is also total nonesense, humans don't need to see how suffering works in order to worship a benevolent God, total rubbish.

  But natural disasters do not prove that God does not exist, just because there is suffering in the world it does not ditract form the premise there is an intelligent creator, who is likely indifferent to human suffering.

  Kate xx
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  I hate being so angry about shunning.

  by quellycatface in

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  2. friends

  since i kicked up a fight regarding shunning at my local supermarket, i am still angry.

  because, only this morning i received a look of contempt from one of my ex-friends/sister.. i really feel like telling her what i think of her behaviour but i guess that would only enforce the "persecution complex"!!!!.

  just venting.

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  KateWild

  I also am one to engage in idle chit chat if I see a JW. Smile, wave and ask them how they are. It make me feel better se I am sending the message that I don't exercise shunning in my life. Kate xx
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  Just Curious About Something

  by EmptyInside in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry,couldn't think of a better title for this post,without it being long.. i was thinking this morning,if ex-jws, who were born into the group less likely to join another religion after leaving.

  vs. the witnesses who belonged to a church before joining the religion.. from my own prespective,being raised a witness,i have no intention of joining any religion.

  and it seems that born-ins are less likely to join a religion after leaving the cult.. in my own experience,i think it's religious burn-out to tell the truth.

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  KateWild

  I was born Jewish, but believe in a creator, became a witness at 20. I have no desire to join another group. I have been burnt too much. I am volunteering now that suits me fine for the moment. Kate xx
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  Can anyone disprove 607 BCE date using only the NWT and WT literature?

  by Bart Belteshassur in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.

  in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.

  once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.

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  KateWild

  Paul, jwfacts,

  Fantastically simple and to the point. You are the man. Well done for your site. Kate xx
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  I had a Tarot card reading

  by LisaRose in

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  2. friends

  so, i am in washinton state visiting my son and his family and we went to a concert that had a fortune tellers booth, actually a gypsy wagon.

  i decided to do something no jw would ever do, have a tarot card reading.

  i wasn't really expecting anything, as i don't believe they are connected with the satan, but i don't believe they can actually read your future either.

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  Why do we actually want someone to tell our future? I don't see the purpose in any of these pursuits and I don't believe they are real. I don't believe that God really cares about us enough to contact us, so if there are other supernatural beings out there why don't they just make contact with us properly.

  What is with a medium of some kind?

  I think it's a way to exploit people when they are in need, much the same as WT. There are always people and organisations willing to take advantage of the vulnerable. If I have a spare £5 I may try it out, but I certainly won't believe they can tell the future. We make our own future.

  Kate xx
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  Off to Edinburgh With JWFacts.com cards

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we are going to edinburgh today to see what's going at the festival, go out for a meal and probably see a show.. i have made up some cards with the jwfacts.com logo to hand to jws on the trolleys.

  there is nothing on the cards part from the logo.

  ttatt is only a click away..

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  KateWild

  Well done cofty, lets hear how it goes on your return. Kate xx
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  New website called JW.Orgasm would be epic

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. humour

  funny interchange last night on youtube made me laugh hard:.

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  http://s98060354.onlinehome.us/bu/jw.orgasm_grab.png.

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  KateWild

  Well done Eric, you just had to share...made me smile. Kate xx
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  GB member visits Bolton--UK

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive pasted the following from a uk xjw facebook page.:.

  i found out last night that thursday,just gone, a member of the gb came to rosehill congregation in bolton to tell them the gb will now be more active and a more prominent part of their lives, this is to build trust and make it so when they revel new direction in the future, people don't push against them and they follow them.

  it's a long shot shot but what are the chances he will be at any other meeting in this district this sunday and how can i find out?.

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  KateWild

  Good point Besty. Kate xx