Don't forget the "generation" thing again in Jan 2014 study wt.
Repetition to indoctrinate, thats how they control minds. Going round and round in circles until everyone is zoned out, dizzy and mellow. -Kate xx
yes, i know that the watchtower ran out of ideas a long time ago but things have really gotten bad.. take a good look a the january wt and awake.
the watchtower is a rehash of the new tract (about death) and the awake is about their jw.org website.. good grief!
when do they finally declare these rags doa and give them a decent burial?.
Don't forget the "generation" thing again in Jan 2014 study wt.
Repetition to indoctrinate, thats how they control minds. Going round and round in circles until everyone is zoned out, dizzy and mellow. -Kate xx
i am trying to decide what to eat tonight.
any suggestions?.
spaghetti bolognaise is a good starter for the novice. Find a simple recipie and away you go. Lets know how you get on
Kate xx
...and granted me strength, friends, a job, whatever...was all either through my own effort alone or sheer luck.. i wanted a government job so i prayed for one and went out looking for one every day for ages and made a heap of applications...and got one.
my own effort.. i wanted a friend and prayed for one, crying myself to sleep with loneliness.....and after 6 months in the new congregation someone reached out to me.
chance.. i prayed to be able to stand up to my family when they put pressure on me about christmas etc...my own cult conditioning so strong.. i prayed to find a nice husband...luck when i moved congregations and one of those sisters who just has to match make introduced us.
On another board at 14 this person said they prayed to God as the dad raped them in the KH office. An elder walked in during the rape. This mean't the prayers were answered? No
The elder said to the Dad, Oh I am sorry for interuppting brother. Then did not say a word about the abuse to the child or anyone. That was the last time the 14 yr old prayed to God.
I don't think God cares about anyone
this was covered a little on another thread and interested me.
i have always been convinced einstien believed in god.
i assumed what i had learned was correct and never thought i was taught something wrong.. i have seen some points posters have made.
I think it says a lot about the fragility of faith.
I agree, it does. People want to follow their icons when they have doubts. Lovely point cofty
this was covered a little on another thread and interested me.
i have always been convinced einstien believed in god.
i assumed what i had learned was correct and never thought i was taught something wrong.. i have seen some points posters have made.
I wonder if Einstein was around today, would his views be more in line with Krauss and Cox.....if their opinions differ from his.
Personally I think it is a Jewish up bringing that drives scientists like Einstein to philosophise about God and Religion. And then maintain some sense of faith in an intelligent creator. IMO.
this was covered a little on another thread and interested me.
i have always been convinced einstien believed in god.
i assumed what i had learned was correct and never thought i was taught something wrong.. i have seen some points posters have made.
This handwritten half-page letter sold for $404,000.00(US) at an auction in London on May 15, 2008.-rip
I do find that inpressive if your source is reliable. The Guardian, 13.05.08, wrote about the auction and stated is was expected to sell for more than £8,000 sterling. But for arguments sake can' t be bothered with accurate conversions.....£300,000.00 sterling is a lot more.
Very interesting that Einstiens religious beliefs are so valuable to many
Kate xx
this was covered a little on another thread and interested me.
i have always been convinced einstien believed in god.
i assumed what i had learned was correct and never thought i was taught something wrong.. i have seen some points posters have made.
rip,
I like what Einstein was saying in your last quote from him. I agree we should not believe in God in a blind way. Do I agree with him that God does not help humans directly and miraculously, kind of I suppose.
But then again my kids are miricles, and now one is an adult she wil be supportive in the future if I ever need her help. Do I think he will part the Red Sea for me? No
I also agree with Einstein that there is superior intellegence involved with the order and precision of the universive. So I believe the the person responsible for this is God
Nice quotes rip, I am glad you find this topic interesting
Kate xx
new world translation version ii:.
"from the days of john the baptist until now, the kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it".
new international version:.
That's interesting-completely different meanings.
JWs are always told to put God's Kingdom first in their lives. Using this scripture in the NNWT, will help the GB emphasize the urgency and seriousness of going door knocking instead of filling spare time with fun and rest. IMO
Kate xx
this was covered a little on another thread and interested me.
i have always been convinced einstien believed in god.
i assumed what i had learned was correct and never thought i was taught something wrong.. i have seen some points posters have made.
Why are Einstein's views on god any more significant than my postman's views on Manchester United?-cofty
They are not, start a thread lets talk about your postman now
yadda, thanks very much....I have read most of this, but you put a balanced point across of Einsteins religious beliefs
Kate xx
since leaving the jw religion,what can you say that you have learned about life/people in a positive way that you probably would have never experienced.
if you had remained a witness ?.
my story is regarding this :.
May be losing a loved one in death brings different responses than other difficulties in the Org. I have never lost a loved one, the suffering that me and the kids have experienced is tremendous. The support in and out the Org has been a mixed bag but consistent.
Those with power in and out the org, have done nothing to help us although they have the power to do so. It's about having the confidence to stand up to your peers and say..."No what you have done is wrong, I am going to make it right"
The support we have had both in and out the org, has been fabulous from those with the full picture, although not being able to have the power to change our circumstances, these ones are enraged at those in power that do nothing to support us and make the needed changes.
I feel validated and supported by some in and out the Org.
Kate xx