Posts by KateWild

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Is It Just Me??

by What Now? in

we're 2 years in to our exit from the witnesses.

we're not disfellowshipped or disassociated ... just inactive.

none of our friends speak to us anymore.

Many have a happy smooth exit, but many of us struggle. When we are part of the Org we are involved with a big social scene, bigger than anything else in the community. So you couls volunteer as I have done, or join a drama or knitting club, but it will never be the same as JW.ORG.

My exit has been isolating too, and my daughter has found it hard getting a circle of friends. She is an adult and lives in a different city. But I would never change things. Learning TTATT has been great and the fact I don't have cognitive dissonance anymore has given me more mental stability.

You are not alone in how you feel, it's a terrible cult that practices shunning. I am so sorry you had to go through this in the grocery store.

Take care

Kate xx

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A question that bugging me

by wheelwithinwheel in

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friends

why it has been deemed appropriate to assign brothers and sisters in each international convention city to spend hours and hours making souvenir grab bags full of knick-knacks.

and to assign other brothers and sisters to spend hours and hours preparing choreography, music, lighting, costumes and props, and practicing and practicing cowboy songs, pop music, dance and jw.org skits.. .

and to assign other brothers and sisters to spend hours and hours constructing giant bibles popping out of jw.org boxes and giant bibles turning into baptismal pools.. .

KateWild

It's all about rebranding of a company and good PR strategies. WT has sucessfully rebranded their property development company to JW.ORG they are making a lot of money and doing well with their charitable status too. Kate xx

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

KateWild

Theredeemer,

Good questions, each believer has their own set of beliefs to answer those questions. Personally I don't believe that God wrote the bible so none of it is a lesson for us, niether do I believe that God is benevolent or cares about us, I just believe in some parts of evolution that had Gods direction, form a chemistry perspective. This is evidence for me and satisfies me.

Kate xx

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

KateWild

To be honest I don't think this is such a big deal. Belief in God and evolution are not mutually exclusive. People have believed in both for years. Kate xx

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Jehovah's Witness Elder, Ron Felt suing Jehovah's Witness he disfellowshiped, for "Harassment"- Broadcasting a recording of JW Ron Felt......

by Balaamsass2 in

http://www.dover-express.co.uk/8203-ironic-isn-t-says-jehovah-s-witness-court/story-23631047-detail/story.html.

' says jehovah's witness in court for harassing another jehovah's witness.

by dover express | posted: october 27, 2014. by jamie rose exclusive [email protected].

KateWild

I think that sometimes activists can go to far, O'hare did on this occaission. Members of the public will not have grasped the full picture and sympathised with the shunning. We need to reason with JWs, not blast out voice recordings in the street.

Kate xx

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Are you afraid something horrible will happen to you now you have left the Wt.

by Still Totally ADD in

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friends

i remember many years ago we would talk about those who leave the org.

something bad will happen to them.

because god was mad at them for turning away from the wt.

KateWild

After I left I never really thought something bad would happen to me. I experienced such bad things while I was in the Org and trying my best to serve Jehovah that leaving could present me with nothing worse. I don't have this residual fear some do.

Kate xx

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Moving out after the borg

by happy@last in

i was delighted to hear of adjustments news, but it did remind me of what i'm sure a lot go through when they leave, here's a little of my story:.

when i married as a jw, and when we moved there was always a team of willing volunteers happy to drive the van or move the furniture or decorate.

additonally when you get married you have a list of items people want to buy for you, even if some had odd taste we received lots of needed and wanted items, sometimes 2 or 3 of the same type.. as a da'd person, also seperated from my spouse i needed to move home.

KateWild

I also moved out my family home and into an apartment. The move was a refreshing new start, but I had my mum with me it was an emotional time and good to have her there. She has never been a witness. Thanks for your story.

Kate xx

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The Elders help

by punkofnice in

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friends

a young jw i used to know (nice person), said within earshot to a non df'd ex jw he knew that his "..parents are up and down in the relationship and the elders(tm) are going to help.".

the non df'd ex jw said to me that he considered that after the elders(tm) get involved his parents were bound to split up.

the non df'd ex jw also commented: "what do elders know?

KateWild

Lisa is right on the money. This is how elders help. It's nonsense. Kate xx

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Reading the Watchtower and Awake! is like getting a college education!

by kairos in

anybody remember hearing this?.

--.

is that comment in print anywhere?.

KateWild

I remember hearing it, but I don't remember reading it in print but I read that much rubbish I could have. I was actually convinced that it was equivalent to higher education, thankfully now I am awake and can critically think and see the basci language and concepts in WT literature that make it very simple indeed.

Kate xx

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Mental Disorders among JW's

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.

do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.

.

KateWild

Yes I think being in a cult causes depresssion. As a JW we were always pushed to do more and not getting enough rest. I am sure this messes with the brain and can cause depression. Stress can cause other mental disorders too, JWs are always stressed.

Kate xx