Princess -
Now you can't go wrong - you've even got Mom's blessing!
Let us know how it works out for you!
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imallgrowedup
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I'm talking a chance here.
by Princess inlast summer i got shafted by a teenager on ebay.
willingly, to a point.
i bought two seventh row concert tickets to rascal flatts for my daughter and i. i paid $125 for them and discovered when they arrived that the face value for each ticket was $10.
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Grocery Strike
by simplesally ini am not sure if the grocery strike is just here in so cal, statewide or nationwide, but it has widened now because the teamsters union has decided to honor the strikers.
they will no longer deliver groceries to the big 3 chain stores.
independant drivers now are being used.
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rem -
Thanks for your support! I really do feel badly for the families that get caught up in the middle of these strikes, not just because an inopportune strike (when is one ever "opportune?!") can hurt a family financially, but because people who work in unionized shops are subjected to the whim of the union, whether they like it or not. The unions are very controlling, and they honestly do try to brainwash their members into thinking they are indispensable. They are not.
We have several friends who are in the grocery business, so I honestly feel for them during these hard times. However, with all due respect, these people get paid 12 to 25 dollars an hour to pick up a package, run it over a scanner, make change, and maybe - if the bagger isn't around - put some groceries in a bag. I see absolutely no difference in job descriptions between a unionized clerk, and a clerk who works at Wal-Mart - except - the Wal-Mart clerks don't have the luxury of a bagger, and therefore must bag every order. The difference in pay is huge, though. Clerks at Wal Mart make about $10 an hour, and don't have the same superior benefits grocery clerks enjoy. In fact, I don't see much difference between a unionized grocery clerk and a kid behind the counter at McDonalds, either - and most McDonald's employees make minimum wage, and don't get any benefits, unless they work full-time! I don't mean to sound heartless. I know these families are used to having the best medical care with the least cost out of their own pocketbooks, and I know they are accustomed to higher than market wages for the positions they hold. Their entire financial foundations are based upon these two "givens", so if they can't maintain their current lifestyle, disaster could strike them! But the truth of the matter is that consumers aren't going to stand for these people being overpaid while getting benefits better than themselves for much longer. I know I silently voice my opinion every single time I visit the non-union grocery store in my area, because I am not willing to pay more for the exact grocery cart full of items, just so the unionized grocery store can afford to pay the higher wages when they shouldn't have to. I think the best thing these striking clerks can be doing right now is gaining new skills, because I doubt whether the market is going to continue to bear their out-of-sync-with-the-rest-of-the-market wages for too much longer.
my 1 cent (I'm not unionized, therefore I can charge less!)
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Grocery Strike
by simplesally ini am not sure if the grocery strike is just here in so cal, statewide or nationwide, but it has widened now because the teamsters union has decided to honor the strikers.
they will no longer deliver groceries to the big 3 chain stores.
independant drivers now are being used.
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I feel very badly that families get caught up in these strikes and all the suffering the strikes cause. It must be a difficult situation to be in - to ready, able and willing to work - but told you can not. It's got to be even harder not to defy the union when your family is suffering financially. But - as a union member, you've got to do whatever the union tells you to do, even if it is not in your best interest. And if you don't obey the rules, you face ostrasization from other members of the union. Kind of sounds like the JW's to me.
The unions have held such an important place in the shaping of labor environments and laws in this country. They were created in the early part of the 1900's specifically because workers were treated so poorly by their employers - it was the only way to get proper working conditions. The unions have done a great service to this country by ensuring worker's rights. In fact, there are now labor laws as a result of the hard work the unions put forth to ensure that everyone can work in "user friendly" work environments, or the company can be held liable. The labor unions have much to be proud for. In fact, they need a pat on the back for a job well done! And in my opinion, it's time for them, and the people they control to move on.
Labor unions are no longer useful in ensuring proper working conditions. The laws that are set up do the job for them. Now, imho, the only useful purpose these unions serve is to coerce others into unnecessary actions. They brainwash their members into thinking that their members need them for something that they can do on their own. Again, sounds like the WT. In the meantime, the people who don't need them are paying them something out of their checks every month so they can act as their "go between." Still sounds like the WT. The truth of the matter is that employees do NOT need labor unions - labor unions need the employees! They've twisted it all around, just like the WT does!
I live in an area of CA where all the grocery stores are union - except one. And I won't shop anywhere else but the non-union store. Why? Because the prices are at least half what I pay in the unionized stores for the same products. Some products are as much as 1/3 the price. The store is open 24 hours, the employees are always nice, and the parking lot is adequate. Why pay more for less? Of course, nearly every time I go to this store, there are union picketers outside of it handing out flyers with misleading information about how "horrible" this company is. So, I've taken their "list" and gone in and talked the employees themselves. None of them are treated badly, as is asserted in the flyers. They aren't laid off when they become eligible for benefits, as the lyer asserts. In fact, one clerk I spoke to worked for a union grocery store two blocks away and she was laid off THERE after only three months. She'd already been at the non-union store for a year and a half and was very happy with the way she was treated.
My point is the families and the stores themselves are suffering at the hands of the unions. It's time for the unions to go bye-bye, then families won't be subjected to a force which requires them to go into debt or lose their homes so THEY can justify their existence. Anyone who is under the control of a union needs to see them for what they are - and break free! They are NO better than the JW's.
*growedup steps off soapbox and slides it back under bed*
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unbuttoning the watchman
by czarofmischief inin my current campaign against "e-watchman" i am going to copy tactics i learned from my favorite watchtower studies - posted weekly by blondie.
my urge to do this is caused by what i view as a real danger to those who are escaping the intense mind control of the borg.
e-watchman uses guilt and condemnatory statements in a big way, which could strike those who are feeling guilty about leaving the watchtower anyway.
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Oh Czar!
You are eeeeevil!!! Pure eeeeeeevil!!! ....... and I mean that in the nicest possible way!
P.S. Whatya charge for front row seats???!!!
Edited to add: Welcome to the board, Bernie!
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Time zones and people here
by JH inthis board is used by people of all around the world.
while we get up, others go to bed.
are there some posters you would like to know better, but the time zones seem to make it difficult?
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imallgrowedup
Welcome Tina!!!
I don't think the time zones matter all that much - however, sometimes a thread can get buried a couple of pages back while someone is sleeping....
zzzzzzzzzz
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I read the news today, oh boy...
by Nathan Natas insource: http://www.sltrib.com/2003/nov/11252003/nation_w/114284.asp.
bulging earth under yellowstone lake raises fears.
by david kelly , los angeles times .
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imallgrowedup
My god! Satan is breaking out of Hell!
Alert the pastors!
LOL @ Czar!
Methinks it's just where the UFO's hide out!
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Molestation Defense Attorney Changes Sdes- For Good Reason
by jst2laws infrom the church as an abuse victim this year, he came up.
into how church lawyers worked to deter lawsuits, minimize.
the diocese, said that she had worked with mr. scamardo and.
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When he sought compensation from the church as an abuse victim this year, he came up against a bishop and lawyers aggressively guarding church assets.
The Catholic lawyers and the WTBTS lawyers must have some fascinating coffee clatches together!
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Articles of Incorporation Changes
by Seven ini received this via email and i'm posting it here for someone who wishes to remain anonymous
i'm not up on legal stuff, but it sure seems to me that this further shows how the wts is positioning kh properties to be exempt from financial impact due to adverse judicial decisions (eccleciastical privilege, and all that stuff).. from septmeber:
articles of incorporation changes
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Jst2Laws -
I'm not privvy to any private contracts between the corporate officers of each individual incorporated congregation, and the GB and/or any of it's lawyers and/or other entities. The WTBTS lawyers are pretty slick; I'm sure there are contracts - but as private documents, they would never see the light of day unless there was a compelling reason for either party to produce them - or a court subpeona. I can't help but wonder how many of these congregations which have been told to incorporate were allowed to choose their own lawyer who could protect the interests of the individual congregation before anything was signed. I also wonder how many of these congregational corporations realize the legal implications of becoming a corporate entity. Even more so, I wonder how many of the officers of each of these corporations are aware of the personal liabilities they face should their particular congregation ever be named in a suit. I guarantee a very large percentage have absolutely no idea how vulnerable they've made themselves - and their congregation - by incorporating under the complete direction of the WTBTS who is obviously out only to protect their own interests.
As far as anyone naming a corporate officer in any suits - I am not aware of any at this time - but that doesn't mean there arent' any - or won't be any. I have a feeling it would be harder to convict a corporate officer of negligence than the corporation itself, but I'm no lawyer and don't know this for a fact. I'm thinking though, that most juries would probably want to see direct evidence that the named officers were personally involved in misconduct. If it was me, however, I would name them anyway, if only to open the eyes of the corporate officers at the congregation level to the personal risks they are taking at the hands of Jehovah's loving organization. Maybe a few congregations might actually seek an impartial attorney's advice before they sign all their rights away.
Well, I sure hope someone with a legal background can take a look at this and give us an interpretation. I know that I, for one, would love to see this through someone else's "legal eyes."
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Articles of Incorporation Changes
by Seven ini received this via email and i'm posting it here for someone who wishes to remain anonymous
i'm not up on legal stuff, but it sure seems to me that this further shows how the wts is positioning kh properties to be exempt from financial impact due to adverse judicial decisions (eccleciastical privilege, and all that stuff).. from septmeber:
articles of incorporation changes
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Jst2Laws -
Your take is quite fascinating. I've got a couple of questions for you.
1. Are you saying that if I filed a suit against WTBTS, Inc. tomorrow, that they could just dissolve their corporation before the case ever goes to trial?
2. If not, are you saying that if I went to court tomorrow and won a huge suit against the WTBTS, that they could transfer all their assets to another corporation and I wouldn't get squat because the corporation is dissolved?
3. Do you know if a corporation can dissolve and form a new corporation, or if they must "merge" with another corporation that they've already set up under a different name?
4. I am under the impression that a plaintiff can also sue the individual officers of the corporation in addition to the corporation itself. Even if the corporation dissolves and there is no company to sue, couldn't the individual members of the corporation still be personally liable for the judgment amount?
5. Can a judge order a corporation to remain "active" and/or pierce a corporate officer's personal trust to ensure the judgment is paid?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know!
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Looking for info on CO Pedro and Levine Hienz from Philly
by sis in distress inhe looked like al jareau/ louis farakan with his little bow tie and his wife looked like venessa williams a light skinned woman with green eyes.
they were the cooliest couple i had ever met in the traveling work- they had a style that was very unusal, in most cases the wife if often times unknown and stands in the showdow of her man, not levine she was all woman- smile.
alot of the boys had a crush on her - she never got fresh but she was just nice-.
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Sis -
About how old would they be, and when was the last time you saw them?
Could the last name be spelled "Hines" instead?
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