Posts by SadElder

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Anyone hit your panic button on your house alarm system by mistake.

by James Mixon in

i feel like a idiot but what was the respond time?

within 5-7 minutes my street was blocked off, i received.

a call from the police dept.

SadElder

Florida law requires that the alarm company contact predesignated person(s) or key holder before police can be dispatched. False alarms cost $50 per occurrence in our area. Our alarm company calls within about a minute of an alarm.

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JW Stand On Concealed Carry

by Cold Steel in

if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

.

SadElder

You will of course earn their counsel about "not being prepared to fight", but the official stance is that you are not allowed "privileges" if you carry a weapon or have a job that requires same. Of course you may be happy that you cannot have any "privileges" such as cleaning the hall, mowing the lawn and so on. But I would then include in my "privileges" not paying any money into the contribution boxes.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses and Disaster Relief

by mildren53 in

i'm looking for this brochure mentioned in god's kingdom book.

i've heard it's only for gubernamental authorities.

otherwise someone would have it in pdf format?

SadElder

Does the brochure state anywhere that they ask those who they help to turn over any insurance money they may receive? Bet you it's silent on that.

They actually have people assigned to talk to the person(s) they help and "persuade" them to fork it over.

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I've had enough..

by raven in

so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?

i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?

quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!

SadElder

Raven

I was an elder for many years and served in other "positions" before the elder arrangement.

I can't think of any occasion while an elder on a judicial committee that we resorted to letter writing. I tried to avoid being involved in judicial issues if at all possible. The only time I was on a committee that we disfellowshipped someone was a disassociation.

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I've had enough..

by raven in

so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?

i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?

quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!

SadElder

Do not have the post office forward your mail to the new address. In times past, for a small fee a public information request could provide them with your new location, I don't know if that is still true.

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New Monthly Broadcast - BE LOYAL! - Shut Up and Sit Down!

by ttdtt in

the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.

(this is from the point of view of the bible).

was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.

SadElder

I'm waiting to see what they are really up to with this LOYALTY business. They are surely plotting something that requires absolute trust by the flock.

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Breaking news: Subcontracted logistics in US and Canada, more layoffs coming...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

more changes in us and canada operations.. new "arrangements" in jw.org to get more benefits and less costs.

logistics in canada and the united states will be managed by a new arrangement.. confidential: a famous supermarket and logistics company will take care of sending literature, keep an eye not getting your wt supplies together with a butter cream pot.. read well: wal **** logistics .... more layoffs.... headquarters in canada of this famous company only at 37 km away from watchtower canada..

SadElder

Walmart and Bethell places with the same attitudes towards workers.... it's a privilege for you to work here, we don't really need you but we'll tolerate and use you til someone else comes along. Guess the marriage fits.

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Mark Sanderson Talk re Belgium visit

by Listener in

the degradation of the governing body members continues on.

mark sanderson gives a talk regarding his visit to belgium for the memorial this year and was travelling from korea to munich to brussels, belgium on the day of the belgium terrorist attacks.he cannot wipe the smirk on his face as he relates his experience, with no regard whatsoever of all those unfortunately affected by the attacks.

in fact, he personally found god's hand affecting him personally, allowing him to attend the memorial as planned and a kh dedication.he is that privileged during his flight travels that internet was available to him, enabling him to catch up on current news and to contact branch's.

SadElder

Who paid for that expensive inflight internet access? Bet he has a dub-paid American Express account.

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Islam is a religion of peace (2)

by Coded Logic in

in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.

it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.

and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.

SadElder

Religion is a snare and a racket. Best statement I ever heard.

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JW Broadcasting reeks of desperation

by oldskool in

again, i'm a decade removed from the faith.

i'm catching up now, and can't believe what i'm seeing.. i get that jw leadership faced a dilemma.

there is no intellectual apparatus within the faith.

SadElder

JOOKBEARD "never in my day either, a slide show public talk was ripped up black sacks stuck over the windows, how times have changed!"

I remember the days doing anything but standing up there blabbing was frowned upon. If your talk got too over the top for the old guard fuddy duddies or was given too much attention by the rank and file the other speakers would get quite jealous. I used to give a public talk about young people "How can youths cope with today's crisis?" One old fart elder told me once "I have that talk and it sure doesn't sound like that". I said "boy am I glad and so was the audience" and walked away leaving him standing there sputtering. I had used some recordings of kids talking about their problems and a few other things. I don't think I ever went on the platform again after that as I was already waking up.