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  The WTBTS' "Golden Calf"

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent months i have personally experienced 3 times how jehovah's witnesses' thinking and ad hominem attacks are being molded by their masters in the wtbts.. 1) j.w.

  family members have stated that i am no longer part of the family because i say "negative things" about the org.. 2) my closest friend in my former congregation complained several weeks ago that i was "finding fault" with the org every time we had a conversation.

  nothing from him since.. 3) when reverse witnessing to an elder at a trolley recently, he accused me of "criticizing the organization.".

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  SadElder

  The GB and their minders put these little tidbits in the publications as a way of numbing the minds of the flock. The change to the GB is the "faithful slave" was years in the making.This idea was being put forth among the GB themselves when Dan Sydlik was alive, he opposed it. I don't know if he eventually caved in or not. I do remember him being aggravated because some of the GB told him he was standing in the way of a "benevolent dictatorship."
  

  Slowly, slowly, the writers weaved various sayings into things so it comes as no surprise when the bombshell hits. Hence some will say "Oh, we've always believed that."
  
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  October 28, 2016 Re: Online Tour Reservation Tool for Visiting United States Bethel Facilities

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 28, 2016 to all congregations re: online tour reservation tool for visiting united states bethel facilities.

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  Just wait they'll start charging for tickets via this site. Oh sure they say disregard the fees, but I don't believe that will last forever once they figure out how to sell the idea. Maybe some drivel like "making best use of dedicated funds."
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  I used to love these take these guys who thought they were God's gift to the CO world down a peg or two. My favorite question for them after they got off the platform lambasting the congregation.... What gives you the right and authority to beat Jehovah's sheep? Most times they got all red in the face and kind of hemmed and hawed. I usually told them I was going to get on the phone and call so and so in Brooklyn at the service desk and ask them if they had authorized him to display such conduct. (These were always Bethell heavies I had known for a long time and had entertained whenever we/they were in town.)

  Yep beat the sheep until morale improves, that's the answer.
  
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  Nicolas King: JW celebrity and example of hypocrisy

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nicolas king frequently sings with the watchtower chorus and had a supporting role in the dvd released at the 2014 convention.

  (he's on the bottom row, second from the right.).

  but he also is a jazz singer, traveling constantly performing at concerts, casinos, charity events, even a brief appearance on the tonight show.

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  He's wearing a necklace. According to the Beth-hell booklet I read once it says necklaces including ID type do not fit the Bethel standard. Something about homosexuals wear necklaces.
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  Hourly vs Salary which is better?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am hourly.

  what are the pros and cons of hourly or salary?.

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  Effective Dec 1 the rules change in the US for the "salaried" worker. There are tests that must be met in order to disqualify salaried workers from overtime. Many companies have not been following this and are going to be caught owing a lot of overtime to folks they are presently taking advantage of by paying a salary for more than 40 hour work.

  I don't have the figures here a home but I believe a worker must make more than $900 a week and actually supervise more than one person. That's the best I can remember without looking at my notes at the office.

  So to answer the question, Now (in the US) you may be better off being an hourly worker. At least until they change everything again.
  
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  They will spin the shrinking numbers as "the love love of the greater number is cooling off", simply another sign of the end times. Head to the bunkers you sluggards.
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  The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

  no words or score on the jw page yet.

  can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

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  The missing song 151 now titled "The Revealing of God's Sons" shows up with the September edition of TV.JW. No words or score on the JW page yet. Can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now. No explanation is offered by David Splane as to the reason for the delay in its' release, though he does make a cameo in the video waving his arms wildly as the 'leader' of the group.

  They seem to be on this kick now that they will soon be caught away to the heavens.
  
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  Anyone hit your panic button on your house alarm system by mistake.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i feel like a idiot but what was the respond time?

  within 5-7 minutes my street was blocked off, i received.

  a call from the police dept.

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  Florida law requires that the alarm company contact predesignated person(s) or key holder before police can be dispatched. False alarms cost $50 per occurrence in our area. Our alarm company calls within about a minute of an alarm.
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  You will of course earn their counsel about "not being prepared to fight", but the official stance is that you are not allowed "privileges" if you carry a weapon or have a job that requires same. Of course you may be happy that you cannot have any "privileges" such as cleaning the hall, mowing the lawn and so on. But I would then include in my "privileges" not paying any money into the contribution boxes.
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and Disaster Relief

  by mildren53 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm looking for this brochure mentioned in god's kingdom book.

  i've heard it's only for gubernamental authorities.

  otherwise someone would have it in pdf format?

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  SadElder

  Does the brochure state anywhere that they ask those who they help to turn over any insurance money they may receive? Bet you it's silent on that.

  They actually have people assigned to talk to the person(s) they help and "persuade" them to fork it over.